And it also doesn’t run current web browsers, so dozens of sites on the net complain about your needing to upgrade your browser. Which is why, when I refurb an old PC, I don’t use the XP key on the sticker on the machine, but rather buy a $10 Windows 7 key from one of those aforementioned sellers in Ireland.
Ah, I see. If the hardware is fast enough to run a supported version of Windows, great. That’s not usually the case for the hardware I’m working on.
A jury can find a person innocent even if he is guilty of the crime if they think that the punishment might be excessive.
The article is wrong, read the court transcripts.
Only 15 months! Not 15 years.
lol, that’s not quite as bad.
It matters in terms of whether it’s a civil or criminal matter.
It’s bad that MS is sending people to jail over this, of course.
In fairness, it’s the judge that’s sending him to jail, not Microsoft.
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This isn’t at all true, if you have a proper hardware firewall and don’t do stupid things on the internet, like open and forward ports publicly and randomly open email attachments and downloads. XP is still pretty much as secure as any other OS.
All OSes are insecure when someone has physical access to the hardware, but it’s pretty easy to properly secure something on the internet if you know what you’re doing.
There are forks of recent Chromium builds that still run on XP.
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I think you are okay as long as you don’t use a web browser. If you do use a web browser, don’t load any content that requires interpretation. This means no image files, video, flash, metafiles, sound, etc… Stick to text and you are probably okay. If you do have to load images, just make sure you aren’t loading content from third parties (ie ad servers).
Done. And it’s not dated April 1.
if it’s that old, stick a copy of Windows 98se on it. Malware that exists in the wild today won’t run on it because it’s not NT, and you can still use it to play games and write letters, which is about all such a machine is good for anymore.
Friends don’t let friends use single core computers to surf the internet.
I haven’t really looked into it, but what’s the security/compatibility situation look like for the latest builds of ReactOS?
I recall ages ago trying to build something conceptually similar to linux “JEOS” with it, and being impressed that anything worked at all. But alas, it didn’t have enough compatibility to be useful. It’s been years though.
It sounds crazy, but we could live to see Windows released under the GPL-lite Common Public License that Microsoft sometimes releases software under.
Microsoft since about 2014 has been transitioning away from a traditional software company to more of a platform company. Nadella has basically bet the entire company on Azure cloud, and in the process Linux and OSX are treated as first class citizens. Huge investments in cross-platform, and most interestingly Windows no longer has its own product group.
Tease out these developments a few years, and imagine a situation where Windows licenses no longer produce a huge amount of revenue, and that revenue is more than replaced by revenues from cloud service offerings. It might make sense at that point!
The idea of what strange beasts might follow such a development fills me with glee.
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And where exactly are those to be found? If you are arguing in good faith, then provide a link.
A variation on the argument here: selling used cars takes potential income away from the car makers who are interesting primarily is moving their new cars.
For your analogy to work, it would be like, this guy is selling the key to a used car with no key. The manufacture will give out the shape of the key for free, but to use it you must know how to cut the key from a shape. Anyone selling cut keys is hey required to pay them $25. This guy didn’t pay so off to debtors prison.
Now for the rest of us poor loobs, no more ome iso.
IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE ELEVENTH CIRCUIT
Cause No. 17-12466
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Plaintiff
-Appellee,
versus
CLIFFORD ERIC LUNDGREN, Defendant
-Appellant.
Appeal from the United States District Court
for the Southern District of Florida
We rebuild lots of donated pcs for needy kids. The OS is usually the hardest part.
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Odd. Firefox on my XP netbook seems to be up to date. (And prompts me when it isn’t.)
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Hello Doctorow,
I want to thank you for your excellent reporting on my case as I get ready to report for prison. I would like a chance to respond to a few things in Microsoft’s statement included in the article.
Microsoft claims that the disks I had “expose people who purchase recycled PCs to malware, Security Risks and other forms of cybercrime.” Two separate Forensic Experts in court records show that these Restore Disks disks are mirror image duplicates exactly the same software Microsoft makes available for free download. So unless Microsoft’s software is also compromised, I don’t understand how they could make this claim. Microsoft also claimed this software was “sold to other refurbishers,” which again is confirmed to be false by court documents as all product was seized and none was sold. Finally, the License is worth $25 from Microsoft, Not the Restore CD. The Restore CD is purchased for pennies and free to download. Microsoft does not sell software, they sell the License of which ONLY Microsoft can supply.
I welcome the chance to speak with Microsoft about how we can move repair forward. I believe we can move forward, but the facts matter.
I did notice one more detail which caught my eye. Microsoft boast of recycling “11 million kilograms of e-waste since 2006,” which, over 12 years, is about what my company currently recycles in 9 months. Thank you for your time.
Best Regards,
C. Eric Lundgren
Founder : Social Entrepreneur : Recycler
ECAnetwork@gmail.com
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Hello Doctorow,
I want to thank you for your excellent reporting on my case as I get ready to report for prison. I would like a chance to respond to a few things in Microsoft’s statement included in the article.
Microsoft claims that the disks I had “expose people who purchase recycled PCs to malware, Security Risks and other forms of cybercrime.” Two separate Forensic Experts in court records show that these Restore Disks disks are mirror image duplicates exactly the same software Microsoft makes available for free download. So unless Microsoft’s software is also compromised, I don’t understand how they could make this claim. Microsoft also claimed this software was “sold to other refurbishers,” which again is confirmed to be false by court documents as all product was seized and none was sold. Finally, the License is worth $25 from Microsoft, Not the Restore CD. The Restore CD is purchased for pennies and free to download. Microsoft does not sell software, they sell the License of which ONLY Microsoft can supply.
I welcome the chance to speak with Microsoft about how we can move repair forward. I believe we can move forward, but the facts matter.
I did notice one more detail which caught my eye. Microsoft boast of recycling “11 million kilograms of e-waste since 2006,” which, over 12 years, is about what my company currently recycles in 9 months. Thank you for your time.
- Eric Lundgren : Eric@GoITAP.com
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Yes, I found that by googling. It is paywalled. Again, if you are going to claim that the article is inaccurate and tell me to read the transcript, then common courtesy would suggest that you provide a means for an ordinary person like myself to read the documents in question.
Forgive me, but I don’t find your claims to have special knowledge that I cannot access which proves that I am wrong convincing.
