Interestingly. in Kundalini yoga, women are considered far more powerful than men.
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What about women who choose to keep their breasts covered at beaches where they are not legally required to do so? Isn’t that basically an advertisement for gender-based social inequality?
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Do you care what they women themselves think or feel about the issue?
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Exposed breasts are no more inherently erotic than exposed hair. It’s all about which culturally-specific norms you happen to adhere to.
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Boobs =/= sex organs
Unless I’ve been having sex wrong my entire life.
Boobs = baby food, thats it, thats all.
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How do you think religious standards get created and shared? Religion, though based on usually some sort of spiritual revelations, are worked out socially and culturally, in the daily life of adherents, and between adherents and the rest of the world. Just like secular social norms - which rather novel in history. Both can and do change constantly. This is why not all Muslim women wear hijab, because it’s a social convention based on interpretation of religious texts. Just like secular laws are based on changing standards of behavior. [quote=“codinghorror, post:125, topic:98496”]
Hence sex organs
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No. Boobs are for babies to eat.
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Well nominally to eat FROM, I’d hope.
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What about beards and Adam’s Apples?
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Except for those cannibal babbies, who just aren’t getting good nutrition by eating boobs!
Silly me!
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Yet people do it all the time. Religious books are written by people and they tend to be evolving documents, even if they are supposed to be the exact word of god. And entire other documents not divinely inspired also tend to evolve. In Islam, there is the Q’uran, the Haddith, and tons of historical fatwas to draw legal decisions from. They are generally re-interpreted in accordance with changing concepts and standards in society. The same sort of religious debates and arguments you’ll see among different Imams can be found in other faiths, too. And Islam demands active intellectual engagement with these documents among Muslims, too.
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So are some boobs! 
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I really do not get how someone else putting a scarf on their head is disrespectful to me. But if it is, can I say that men wearing fedoras are directly disrespecting me too?
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To be fair, it’s actually a trillby:
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Oh, I could sense the collective fatigue. I figured a switch from argumentative to pedagogical/dialectic might give a sense of reprieve and momentary grounding for some in this discussion. I suspect the religious and cultural history of the hijab is both vast and intricate and I know I can’t be the only one who would like to learn more about that.
I’ve read only a few personal accounts so I’m really enjoying those that others have linked/shared here as well.
ETA: I lived in an area of West Philly for seven years where it was pretty common (depending on your shopping habits, I suppose) to see Sikh women wearing niqabs. I learned during this time that even such extensive covering does not inhibit conversation between the niqab-wearer and their acquaintances.
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Unfortunately, I think the intricacies of such things are irrelevant to some…
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Well, tough shwarma for them. I’m all ears!
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Canada’s Minister of defence: Harjit Singh Sajjan
Do all your boys feel personally disrespected? (probably because you couldn’t grow that glorious beard if you tried right?)
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Me and my Jeff Tweedy beard are feeling incredibly envious right now.
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