Apparently, the same thing happened in the UK (and maybe elsewhere in Europe?) with DAB as well.
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The most frightening thing is it’s not something that anyone else can actually observe to fix it and I know it can only get worse.
I will look into that I need to do something before I go Van Gough
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I’ve had it basically all my life; I first noticed it when I was five years old (i.e. about fifty years ago), but didn’t know it had a name until I was an adult. Mine is a roughly 9 kHz whistle, and it seems to vary in intensity. It tends to be less noticeable when… I’m listening to music.
SWEET JAYYYYYYYSUS, I had not heard about DAB
That screenshot alone is so triggering. Look at the utter carnage unfolding here. MP2? Mono? MONO?
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I agree with most of your post, but
Depends on your definition of “commodity” (or how good an after school job you had). My dad sold transistor radios in the 60s, while pocket transistor radios had been around for a while they didn’t start becoming cheap until 1964 or thereabouts. For example, an Emerson 800 series might have sold for $20 in 1960; that’s around $180 in today’s dollars.
What I found lacking in this discussion is a wider range of genres: I mean, when arguing about the fidelity of audio, where are the classical music fans? Where are the jazz club aficionados? The people who like listening to folk? These are the real “live versus recorded” fans out there, goddammit!
And no, I am not going to get riled up about DAB or DAB+, since listening to a radio is something I do on little tinny speakers anyhow, either the clock radio with the news or the radio in the kitchen. Everything else I use either Spotify or purchased music for (I normally buy CD’s, rip them into AAC and then store them in a nice dark box in a not too dry, temperate corner of the cellar).
And I am not going to get too worked up about the quality, because my generation had the same argument back when cassettes were king, when CD’s were expensive so if you bought a CD, you copied it onto tape for your Walkman and made copies for each friend that brought a tape. There was the one guy in my college dorm, a Pink Floyd fan, who doted on his equipment, and he thought CD’s were better than vinyl. I bought all of his Pink Floyd LP’s off of him, as he sold them off when he got the CD’s.
I suppose I ought to grouse that you kids need to get off of my lawn now, but I don’t really mind. It’s not my lawn. I’m just visiting.
Have you ever tried going to sleep with some white noise playing in the background? It shouldn’t have to be too loud, just loud enough to mask the ringing tone itself. There’s a bunch of ‘10 hours of white noise’ videos on youtube, or alternatively try some environmental sounds, like rainfall, ocean waves, or rain forest noise.
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Some people might be able to tell the difference between the 16 bit / 44.1 kHz sampled audio on a regular CD and the 24 bit / 192 kHz stuff Young was trying to sell, maybe. Maybe.
Do I believe Neil Young can tell the difference? No fucking way. After playing on stage at arena-rock volume levels for most of his life he’d be lucky if he could tell the difference between AM and FM radio.
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What gets me is the even sorrier state of the US’s HD Radio system - carmakers would rather throw in a Sirius/XM receiver than offer HD Radio, or at least it seemed that way the last time I bought a car. Kickbacks? Patent licensing fees?
Based on hearing HD Radio through an aftermarket receiver in my dad’s truck, general suckage might be part of it, too - I’m far enough from Chicago’s transmitters that even slight obstructions would cause the signal to cut out, where normal FM sounded fine.
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You mean this?
I occasionally use an app called Relaxio on the phone to do just that.
It helps, but not always. I mix the low range white noise with fan sound and that seems to work
How do you find the frequency of something only you can hear?
sorry to hear you have it too
I used a tone generator on a quiet setting, and changed its frequency until I found where I couldn’t tell if the tone was on or off.
ETA: I can hear 10 kHz and above OK, but I’ll have to try it again to see what my upper limit is. I think it’s somewhere around 16-18 kHz. Down in the 88-key piano range, I have perfect pitch (both a blessing and a curse).
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The guy with a nasal drone singing voice and a passable knowledge of a few cowboy chords say the “internet” has ruined music???
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Variations upon a theme of “get off my lawn?”
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Interesting. I get that he’s trying to make a point, but really… nobody thinks Halestorm, Nickelback, and All-American Rejects is “good” rock. And his assertion that everything has been done this way since the early 2000’s is kinda silly, though it does confirm why I stopped looking to Top 40 music for my next great listening experience. There is a mountain of amazing indie rock from that time period, and it doesn’t lack anything for feel.
I suppose if you’ve had no contact with digital manipulation software, the “grid” and “copy/paste” method he’s showing here seems vaguely sinister and cheapening, but scores of artists have made their name through the use of computer-manipulated music, and produced some transcendent stuff, too. Anyway… definitely a relevant video to the discussion going on in here. I imagine Neil wouldn’t have any patience for this stuff, either.
Here, an audiophile demonstrates wishful thinking. Each layer of exoticism brings a new and startling revelation.
Note that the 192/24 streams that Neil Young promotes are still “inferior” to 128xDSD, and even 64xDSD.
From this paper
A major problem with pharmacological tinnitus research is that animal data rarely translate to humans, which is analogous to what has been seen in other treatments for tinnitus [20, 21]. For example, memantine seems efficacious in rats [22], but not in humans [23], which is similar to findings with carbamazepine [24,25], and baclofen [26].
Without comparable animal studies, human phar-macological trials have no solid guidance. Therefore, most pharmacological studies in humans are solely based on theoretical or clinical underpinnings. Often, pharmacologically treatable co-morbidities are addressed, such as in depression. Sometimes medications that are efficacious in neuropathic pain are tried because of the clinical [12-14], pathophysiological [14, 15] and surgical treatment similarities [27-30] between tinnitus and pain. Several tricyclic antidepressants, anticonvulsants and naltrexone have been tried for the aforementioned reasons. Other pharmacological approaches, e.g ., muscle relaxants, address the sensorimotor modulation of tinnitus [31].
That’s from 2015, so things may have changed yet again. I should follow my own advice and follow some more “cited by” links.
Hilarious. Would be fun to force him to do a properly controlled test and watch him completely fail to tell the difference between any of that.
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