Net neutrality: What it is, and why you should care

[iPolicy]

Neither am I.

[GlennF]

@iPolicy

I wrote  75 page analysis of broadband in the OECD a year and a half ago

I just read the key findings, and the list contains many of the same forced, tendentious attempts to push a telecom-oriented agenda against regulation as your comments here and elsewhere. When you carve things out so specifically to find positives, and selectively use data to support only your view, that’s not a useful way to advance any discussion, even if you selectively quote Kroes to support your points.

[GlennF]

From ITIF site:

Visiting Fellow, American Enterprise Institute

I’m sorry that this fellowship doesn’t come with a salary or ongoing stipend for the work you do for them and that the ITIF promotes.

Also, your biography contains this startling statement:

framing often emotional issues on a dispassionate and technically sound basis

[iPolicy]

I’m still waiting for you to show even and single data source that impeaches the ones I’ve presented. You can speculate all you want about other people’s motives, but unless you can present an alternative view point that’s supported by data, you’ve done nothing but smear and call names.

An no, ITIF does not promote my work any longer, as I stopped working with them last summer. It’s peculiar that funruly’s stalking exercise didn’t turn that up.

[iPolicy]

@GlennF

What we actually need in America more than net neutrality, to be honest, is the uncoupling of infrastructure from service, which is the case in many countries, and leads to infrastructure improving rapidly in order to feed retail brands which compete on service offerings and bundles built on top of wire and fiber they don’t have to maintain.

There is not a single example of “the uncoupling of infrastructure from service… leading to infrastructure improving rapidly” in the entire world. In the UK, the DSL infrastructure is “uncoupled” and cable and FTTH are not, and guess which infrastructure is fastest? That’s right, cable and FTTH. In Japan and Korea we see the same story. We can expect that unbundled DSL will produce lower prices, which it sometimes does, but there is every reason to expect that it will slow technical advances by reducing investment (which it clearly does) and by complicating upgrades. Ultimately, DSL unbundling hits a wall with vectoring, because it requires close coordination of the signals traveling in adjacent pairs; oops.

This is an idea that sounded good when it was proposed by the 1996 Telecom Act, but technical and economic realities have shown it to be a loser. If you want infrastructure to improve, you need to provide incentives for investment in it, not make it as hard as it can possibly be to improve.

[Cowicide]

I’m still waiting for you to show even and single data source that impeaches the ones I’ve presented.

It’s obvious you’re avoiding Glenn’s points about your cherrypicking of data.

I’m still waiting for you

Hey, um… I’m kind of in that situation with you with a question and various points you’re avoiding…

Net neutrality: What it is, and why you should care - #75 by Cowicide

[iPolicy]

You’re asking me to explain things I didn’t say, but I’m asking Glenn to support things he has said. He’s one of the writers of the Baggage blog at The Economist, and he’s been waving his hands about the alleged superiority of the UK broadband model for years without offering any empirical support. Bottom line is that UK has pretty good broadband because it has very little rural population, less than 2% vs. 40% for the US (per OECD). The costs come from the miles, not the bps.

I have no problems with CDNs or any other form of acceleration, I simply object to hypocrisy and hand-waving.

[Cowicide]

@iPolicy

I’m asking Glenn to support things he has said. … He’s one of the writers of the Baggage blog at The Economist, and he’s been waving his hands about the alleged superiority of the UK broadband model for years without offering any empirical support.

Glenn is repeatedly calling you out on your cherrypicking of data and you repeatedly keep avoiding that point. You’re attempting to dodge the point again by attacking Glenn instead of answering to the issue. I suppose you hoped I’d be distracted and start defending Glenn’s research/writing and deflect from the point. But, sorry, that doesn’t work on me.

You’re now avoiding the point with myself as well. The issue is your cherrypicking of data to support these corporations.

Just as you cherrypick on the “harms” of CDNs:

@iPolicy

You’re asking me to explain things I didn’t say … I have no problems with CDNs or any other form of acceleration

That’s untrue. Your own words (emphasis mine):

@iPolicy

let’s just consider BoingBoing’s hypocrisy: this site is hosted on a CDN, Cloudfront. Thus, this cute denunciation of Internet “fast lanes” comes to us over an Internet fast lane.

Do the BoingBoingers even understand why this is funny.?

@Cowicide

There’s no hypocrisy on Boing Boing’s part by utilizing a third party CDN. Boing Boing can’t utilize their CDN to slow down my anti-ukulele videos because they don’t like them. And, if my anti-ukulele videos get popular and require it, I can use growing revenue to utilize a scalable CDN structure as needed to maintain speeds as I go/grow.

@iPolicy

So Boingboing, by choosing use put their packets in a fast lane, is sabotaging the rest of the infrastructure, the very thing they accuse the ISPs and the FCC of wanting to do.

As I said, I doubt that they understand how hilarious this is because they don’t actually understand the implications of managing application traffic by priority, they’re simply fronting.

And, that’s why I’ve repeatedly asked you to explain why you’ve said that CDNs are good when (for example) Comcast utilizes them on their own oligopolistic (and often duopolistic) networks, but when Boing Boing utilizes them via a third party it’s “sabotaging the rest of the infrastructure” (your own words).

You’re disingenuously speaking out of both sides of your mouth on this issue. Reeks of agenda.

[Jardine]

@davide405

Ooohh! I’ve never been called “tragically hip” before

He meant it as an insult of course, but I’d take it as a compliment. The Tragically Hip are awesome.

The Tragically Hip - Locked In The Trunk Of A Car (Official Video)