Could you point to the vengeance? Or is it imaginary?
ETA:
You’re the one who went off the rails:
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Aren’t we talking about Assange? He’s not a source – he’s a journalist or at least a publisher: what do you call “Collateral Murder”?
You’ll know it when you see it: extradited or disappeared by the US to be tried for publishing “Collateral Murder” and other acts of journalism.
So, definitely imaginary at this point.
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As I said above, Wikileaks is more precisely a clearinghouse for the actual sources: whistleblowers like Manning*. Putting up raw data on a Web site without framing it is not journalism and is publishing only in the broadest sense of the term.
[* speaking of which, remember the promise that Brave Sir Julian made about what would happen if Manning was released? Yet another “all about me” own goal]
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Don’t define people as not journalists so that they can be abused. There has been a concerted effort to smear Khashoggi since his death as there has been an effort to smear Assange.
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Yes, let’s just restrict journalists to those who have our political approval to be journalists. All the rest can be confined in exile and abused at will. Publisher under the broadest definition = publisher.
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Please provide a quote where I said or implied anything of the sort. Putting words in other people’s mouths only further undermines your credibility.
Agreed. But not a publisher of journalistic content.
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thanks. This is basically something I also wanted to articulate. Wikileaks, even in its best most optimistically interpreted form, is based on “extreme transparency” which is something which you can believe in it or not, but I don’t think it’s precisely the same thing as what would generally be accepted as good journalism
Basically, I’m quite sympathetic to well-intentioned leakers who are guided by their conscience - I’d put Chelsea Manning and Reality Winner in that category. Snowden is. . . lord I have no idea; let’s leave that one aside for now. But in general, I think the leakers would be better served by going to journalists in the mold of Woodward and Bernstein
Honestly, the more I write here, the more wikileaks reminds me of every other move fast and break things disruptive new tech
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Are we done with the thread derail, yet?
Has his lawyer presented evidence of a credible threat? Now THAT would be interesting. At this point, who would want anything more than for Assange to retire into obscurity?
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Jeff Sessions, among others.
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Jeff Sessions is likely to be gone before Assange manages fifty feet from the embassy litterbox.
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it’s emblematic of the Trump presidency that I feel bad about that.
They’re going to get rid of a horrible racist drug-warrior attorney general
Yay
Because he is actually upholding the law re: the Mueller investigation
umm. . . .
And they’ll replace him with someone sooo much worse
Boooooo!
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Collateral Murder had no journalistic content? I understand, he’s not a True Scotsman.
A dump truck may contain some food, but that doesn’t make it a restaurant
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“Collateral Murder” is a data dump. It’s clear you don’t understand the distinctions and don’t care to, so I’ll end my discussion with you here.
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And just think, we have a whole four more days of this shit to “look forward to.”
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Sorry, I was busy adding someone new to my Mute script.
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I wish I could install it on my work pc…
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