Originally published at: https://boingboing.net/2019/02/07/nypd-demands-google-waze-stop.html
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The police are saying “the whereabouts of these public servants while being paid are not the business of the public” … meanwhile the NYPD has had decades of “empty your pockets and don’t resist … stop resisting.”
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Doesn’t the local newspaper publish this info already? Where I’m from in PA, upcoming checkpoints are published in the newspaper, on the website, and on facebook.
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Aside from being wildly unconsitutional, they’ve done a marvelous job of publicizing the fact that people can use these apps for this function.
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Google Maps != Waze, although Google acquired Waze a few years ago.
The Waze notification is just that there’s a police presence ahead, which is a good thing to know. Warns the driver of an upcoming hazard which may require slowing or moving from the outside lane for the safety of the officer. Could indeed just be a radar car but that can create a hazard, too, if some yahoo reacts or slows abruptly in traffic.
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They know where we are why the F’k can’t we know where they are?
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Irony Alert!! Irony Alert!!!
MWA MWA MWA MWA MWA MWA
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From an effectiveness perspective I do think that the best way to get compliance with a law is unpredictable spot checks with high enough frequency that people feel like they might be inspected at any time. Random checks are used for safety in lots of areas.
I find the banding together of drivers against police to be unfortunate. If someone is driving drunk, I genuinely want them to be caught. The banding together of citizens against the police I get, though. Since any interaction with the police is a potential death sentence for black and indigenous Americans I guess they aren’t getting my sympathy here.
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When the police create bottlenecks, Waze routes around.
…now if Waze could just clue in to train crossings…
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In New York, courts have ruled that police can conduct DWI checkpoints so long as information on the checkpoint is published in advance.
No doubt that the NYPD publishes information on DWI checkpoints in the same manner as Mr. Prosser filed the building plans in the local planning office.
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Hey police, if you’ve done nothing wrong, you should have nothing to hide… right?
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I’ve never been through one of these checkpoints in NY, but other people have mentioned in different threads that the NYPD check for seatbelt use, ID, warrants, etc. So presumably they are slow and time consuming.
In NZ and Australia, where I have been through these sobriety checkpoints they are very efficient and quick - the officer asks you to wind down the window - looks to see if you appear drunk or smell of alcohol, and if you don’t lets you go on your way - 15 seconds tops. They are also polite and professional.
It seems to me the NYPD are overreaching (as they almost always tend to do) and if they just improved their process people wouldn’t object. Also the cops in the US being aggressive assholes in almost every situation tends to alienate people
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Not sure how it’s connected, but the hair dryer is brilliant!
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Police not being 100% effective is a feature of justice, not a bug. The law isn’t perfect, so applying it every time it could be applied would lead to injustice. We don’t want to get into a lawful stupid alignment.
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Waze needs to add a “checkpoint” option for roads. It would be much more helpful than police reported ahead kind of stuff.
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This is 100% first amendment protected speechifying.
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Ah yes, Stop and Frisk.
Since any interaction with the police is a potential death sentence for black and indigenous Americans I guess they aren’t getting my sympathy here.
…which is exactly why “unpredictable spot checks with high enough frequency that people feel like they might be inspected at any time” is a racist idea and an affront to our civil liberties.
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“The Police are just prisoners of the donut shop”
MoJo Nixon
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Waze reports began to appear on Google Maps after the acquisition.
Fortunately, I live in one of the twelve states where sobriety checkpoints are prohibited.
