NYT has 2 decades of Donald Trump's taxes, he's in massive debt and paid no federal income taxes for 10 of past 15 years

Hey, looks like this actually happened? (Not necessarily to a half-dozen journos, but to some important ones). I was using the lofty pulpit of the BBS to call for it before, most recently about 38 days ago:

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That’s your problem with this? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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There are so many charges that were not pursued the first time he was impeached, so it’s highly possible.

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I think it’s a good time to remind people that the qanon folks think this serial money launderer is going to go after human traffickers and their money even though Trump would be one who’s gets hurt badly if the government seriously goes after launderers.

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There’s a lot here and more to come, but the number 750 shines like a beacon through the fog. It’s a number everyone understands, grandma can remember, and will be unreputable by his followers. I’ve seen a lot of political memes (Dawkins’ I mean) in my time and it really looks like 750 is going to hang out for a while and probably do some real damage. Go 750!

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Nah; not even this.

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It’s a number everyone can understand; a weekly paycheque for some, or month’s rent in some places, grocery money, or money to pay for needed repairs on your old car.

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One month of my mother’s leukemia care.

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As the AP reminded us (maybe the Times, too, but they’re paywalled), when Hillary suggested he was hiding his tax returns because he hadn’t paid any tax, he cut her off with, “That makes me smart.” That reply scored big with His Base. People love a con man.

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:frowning:
I’m so sorry.

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it sounds like he might have to raid Ivanka’s piggy bank.

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And he evidently took a deduction for it.

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this changes everything we finally got him now he must resign impeach him finally it’s over the end is near the final blow it’s all over now etc.

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Key is that they are saying tax avoidance and not tax evasion. So, he did a bunch of shitty, shady stuff that should be illegal, but they didn’t find anything that was openly illegal. Not saying there isn’t something actually illegal in there, but they weren’t comfortable saying evasion.

Which means this is all down to hoping this puts a dent in his image with his supporters. So, yeah, not holding my breath.

Edited because autocorrect changed tax to red.

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I’ll add that there is plenty in there that might get him into court now that it sees the light of day. Some of the deductions might get litigated, and fines on a rejected tax transaction can get you in hot water very quickly.

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I thought you wrote “it was a 'gift from day one,” i.e., a gift to Trump. Which also makes sense.

But also, 'twas a gift to the TV.

P.S. It looks like, as far as the IRS is concerned, I’ve actually earned more money than Donald Trump. But I already suspected that was the case.

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This may actually be the one (and only) thing that can finally get his supporters to abandon him: learning that their beloved God-King Emperor is not nearly as rich as he says he is.

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The question is did he acquire loans based on information that was different than his tax returns. If yes then there was either tax fraud or bank fraud. Or both. Probably.

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From 2016

Hillary Clinton had been waiting for this one: a line of questioning about Donald J. Trump’s refusal to release his income tax returns.

And she pounced at Monday night’s debate, suggesting that perhaps Mr. Trump was concealing that he had not been so charitable or was not as wealthy as he claimed.

But another possibility she raised — that Mr. Trump had not been paying income taxes — set off a curious response from him that sounded a lot like an admission.

“That makes me smart,” Mr. Trump said after Mrs. Clinton brought up how he had paid no taxes more than two decades ago. When she suggested that Mr. Trump was still paying no federal taxes, and had not done so for many years, Mr. Trump offered another retort: “It would be squandered, too, believe me.”

(continues in typical nytimes fashion for 30 more paragraphs.)

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