Police lobbyist: cops will not be motivated to stop crime unless they are allowed to steal people's stuff

Well, the NYPD already can’t compute how much they’ve seized because it would break their computers so what’s another Trump Tower or so? Maybe with the information Robert Mueller has been sharing with the New York Attorney General’s office we’ll see that sooner rather than later.

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An older colleague of mine told me a story once about travelling to Mexico in the late 60s or early 70s. They were in line at the border and the border guards were basically glancing at passports and waving everyone through. Then someone came up and the guards looked at the passport and started asking the person a lot of questions. There was a big commotion. Many people in the line were craning around the people in front of them nervously, trying to figure out what was going wrong.

The person in front of my colleague nudged my colleague. The opened their passport and showed my colleague the two $1 bills they had tucked in the middle of it. My colleague quickly got out their wallet and tucked two bucks into their passport. They got through the border no problem.

Let’s remember what we are talking about here. Cops collecting money on the job is called corruption. And yes, it is a necessary incentive to get police and security guards to work in many places all over the world. It shouldn’t exist in America.

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Forfeiture was used to get police to go on Nixon’s War on Drugs instead of going after dangerous criminals. It is corrupting.

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If civil forfeiture has to be a thing, it should always go into General Income rather than directly to the department collecting it. That’s not enough to stop corruption (see small town pestholes where the police department is a profit center), but it cuts down on the outright banditry.

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“9-1-1, what’s the net value of your emergency?..”

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Indeed. If you do your job, you get to keep it. Otherwise, kindly pi$$ off.

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Reminds me of The Warriors, where the cops are portrayed as just another gang.

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It’s especially weird logic since the cops don’t get to personally keep funds seized under civil asset forfeiture.

I’m sure plenty of them do keep at least some of it, though.

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Yeah, I suppose that a significant amount of money that is seized get skimmed before it gets to the station… And without legal civil asset forfeiture, they won’t have the cover needed to get their hands on the cash to do that.

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Maybe…?

Over the weekend, Toronto police carried out a raid at Community Cannabis Clinic, a marijuana dispensary at St. Clair Avenue West near Dufferin Street.

Sources tell CBC News the marijuana edibles the officers ingested are believed to have come from this dispensary. It’s unclear if the officers participated in the raid over the weekend.

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Incentive? Oh just a little oath to protect and serve the community.
For fucks sake at least robber barons were fucking honest about what they did.

It shouldn’t fucking well exist anywhere, because it might start with an innocuous dollar bill to grease the wheels or a free cup of coffee, but it ends with a goddamn exposé on the police being worse than the criminals they are supposed to stop.

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The Institute for Justice is a libertarian nonprofit organization that specifically fights civil forfeiture abuse in the USA. Here’s their report “Policing For Profit”:
http://ij.org/report/policing-for-profit/

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There’s an old joke. “This is Jack Smith with the six o clock news. Police today seized drug assets totaling sixteen million dollars. The eight million dollars was taken into police custody, and from there the four million dollars was registered as evidence. Should the suspects prove their innocence, all two million dollars will be returned.”

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You mean real life?

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no no no, free market discipline for US, socialism for THEM

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American Law Enforcement is corrupt, brutal, murderous, and racist pretty much top to bottom.
It needs to be reformed with dynamite, a bulldozer, and all-new construction.

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That’s a superb movie.

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warriors-can-you-dig-it

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