Red-baiting water speculator plans to drain the Mojave of its ancient water

I wouldn’t say he’s been missing it, Bob.

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The guy explicitly states that he doesn’t care about any criticism, on any basis, because what he is doing is legal.

That’s a tell. Particularly that tell tells that he’s doing it without regard for others, because that’s what he says he’s doing.

It is good that the BLM is doing their job, they’ll probably get tarred and feathered for it too but that’s their job too.

Cory uses buzz wrods and such, but no more or less than most anyone of hot-button issues. And the other guy started it, I ain’t a comm-u-nest & I’m critical of his actions.

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Will somebody tell this buttmunch that selling =/= “sharing”.

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Okay demanding substancia minutiae in the age of Google is poor form.
Aquifers are huge things and often interconnected, both in this case, deserts are not deserted and are also parts of larger eco-systems. If you’ve never been to a desert do visit. As you might imagine if you took a moment, making major changes to the way water flows has cascading effects, pun intended.

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I suspect @KeithLM might be one of those people who hear the word “desert” and assume the place is indistinguishable from Arakkis, with nigh but sand dunes as far as the eye can see and every drop of life-giving water trapped far below in living cisterns of interlocking sandtrout.

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He’s extracting all the value from his land without paying for the true cost of his venture.

Like the coal miner who leaves vast, polluted tailing ponds. Or the gold miner who dumps mercury all over the place. Or the nuclear plant that doesn’t account for spent fuel rods.

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As an East coast person I applaud your bravery.

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As someone on the other coast, yeah when you say desert that’s what instantly pops in my mind. While I know the vast majority of “desert” land isn’t like that, still it’s my first go to thought. You know an area that looks like it was the set of any of these films.

I do find it odd however that we look at water in a very local context. We are willing to setup companies that spend billions drilling, shipping, and refining oil all around the planet…yet the concept of moving water seems beyond our grasp. Here it’s been raining off and on over the last month enough my front yard is an inch of mud almost… I don’t think anyone would have had a problem shipping the West several trillion gallons of water out the Southern part of the US.

I live in the dreaded state of Texas myself. Here we suffered through several years of severe drought before the rains came last spring. Funny thing is unlike California we didn’t wait until things got critical before putting in usage restrictions.

Any time the lake levels start to drop around here the first thing they do is limit how much we can water our lawns. And that’s not too keep our grass green, it’s to protect the foundation of our homes. If we don’t keep the clay soil somewhat damp it leads to shifts in the foundation resulting in thousands of dollars in repairs. Sensible regulations before it becomes a severe problem kept us from having to go to extremes for alternative sources for our water.

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Ok, 1 second of googling quickly finds a better article:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-03-06/california-looks-to-the-desert-as-cadiz-proposes-tapping-aquifer

I agree with @KeithLM that the Wired article leaves a lot of questions open, as to exactly what the problem is (if he’s drawing off the amount that evaporates, then how is that “draining” the entire aquifer). It’s from a couple of years ago, but this one has a few more specifics about why it might be a problem. The company of course disagrees.

Oh, and screw Feinstein:

That’s not cool. Regulatory-wise, the project should sink or swim on its merits, not a politician interfering with an agency doing their job.

(EDIT: oops, didn’t mean that as a reply to FunkDaddy, that was an accident)

Forget it Jake, it’s CoryTown.

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Liar, liar, pants on fire.

So now that you’ve admitted that no amount of facts or logic will be acceptable, we know not to waste time on you anymore.

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Huh. I got my bags packed, my new place rented, and am heading down there in… 20 hours. I’ll post pictures!

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Did you remember to pack water?

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Does fermented grape water count? (I am so not gonna win the fitness challenge)

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Dont forget to bring some of these guys!:

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Only if it makes somebody somewhere a profit. It is our new morality and religion, economic Calvinism/faux-Darwinism.

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Welcome! First burrito is on me.

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not a politician interfering with an agency doing their job.

Just because an agency has a job to do doesn’t necessarily mean that the job is worth doing. Water rights in the West are allocated in such a way as to encourage depletion of aquifers. If the BLM is obliged by law to stand up for the rights of people who see this aquifer as something to be exploited and drained, then perhaps there’s room in a liberal society to stand up for other priorities that may come in conflict with the BLM.

The Mojave preserve has interests. Let someone speak for it.

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The vast majority of California’s water resources are used for agriculture, not residential purposes. Reducing unnecessary watering for lawns and such is a good idea but not enough to make a significant dent in the problem.

And before you dismiss the drought as a problem for those silly Californians, keep in mind which state grows a huge portion of the food the rest of the country (including Texas) eats.

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