xeni
January 16, 2019, 1:33am
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And that’s good. Shouldn’t have been picked up at all obviously but at least someone was paying attention.
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Before the usual expressions of concern or alarm from the champions of liberty that “Roku is censoring Alex Jones”, the obligatory:
This is a thread to discuss the limits of free speech, both legal and moral, the consequences, both legal and social, and the best way to fight hate speech. I ask that everyone acknowledge that we all oppose hate speech, but we sometimes differ on what we see as the best way to fight it.
There will also inevitably be some disagreement on what constitutes a threat under current laws in various countries, and what practically constitutes a material threat irrespective of laws. I ask that everyone…
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I can get behind that, you still shouldn’t act violently towards intolerant people though, because you just end up wallowing in the mud beside them and they have more experience.
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He can always start a B&B with Milo. Maybe somewhere in Cabot Cove, Maine?
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Good. I guess outrage against indecency occasionally wins.
I wonder what Alex Jones puts on his taxes as his occupation. Professional Asshole?
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Ya gotta go with your strengths, they say…
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I don’t mean to be hateful, but I wouldn’t shed one tear if Alex Jones’ pathetic life ended with him naked in a ditch on a dark and stone cold rainy night choking on his own blood and sick while coming to the realization he was a useless waste of air, water, and food just before the darkness of the eternal abyss enveloped him.
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sluggo
January 16, 2019, 5:08am
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I hate to break it to you, but I don’t think Roku is going to add your channel
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“I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction.”
-Clarence Darrow
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Jorpho
January 16, 2019, 5:45am
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I can’t even recall the last time I heard about Roku before today. Perhaps they only added Infowars out of desperation?
bolamig
January 16, 2019, 7:09am
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There are different forms of intolerance. Roku gets A+. Nazi punchers get D- from me. Violence is indeed the important factor.
Can someone remind me how many people nazi punchers have killed in the last decade, compared to how many the far right have killed?
Anti-fascist collective self defence is the failure mode of liberal justice. I have never gone looking for a fight, but fascists came for me regardless and I still have the scars 15 years later. A copy of The Kingdom of God is Within You isn’t going to help when they come to purge you.
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bolamig
January 16, 2019, 7:41am
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I can’t find any reliable evidence that far right people are any more likely to kill than other groups. But I am sure there would be a lot of deaths if they all went around punching people they don’t like.
You sound like me when I was young and naive.
Let’s do a quick count, just from the last two years in the US.
For the far right:
The Pittsburgh synagogue shooting was an antisemitic terrorist attack that took place at the Tree of Life – Or L'Simcha Congregation[b] synagogue in the Squirrel Hill neighborhood of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States. The congregation, along with New Light Congregation and Congregation Dor Hadash, which also worshipped in the building, was attacked during Shabbat morning services on October 27, 2018. The perpetrator killed eleven people and wounded six, including several Holocaust survivo...
From October 22 to November 1, 2018, 16 packages found to contain pipe bombs were mailed via the U.S. Postal Service to several Democratic Party politicians and other prominent critics of U.S. President Donald Trump. Targets included former U.S. President Barack Obama, former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Other people who were sent packages included three Democratic members of Congress: Representative Maxine Waters, Senators Cory Booker and Kamal...
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State convictions:
The Charlottesville car attack was a white supremacist terrorist attack perpetrated on August 12, ...
On March 20, 2017, Timothy Caughman, a black 66-year-old man, was collecting cans for recycling in the Hell's Kitchen neighborhood of Manhattan, New York City when James Harris Jackson, a white 28-year-old man, approached him and stabbed him multiple times with a sword. Caughman later died of his injuries. Jackson subsequently turned himself in to police custody and confirmed that he traveled from Maryland to New York with the intention of killing black men in order to prevent white women from h...
On October 24, 2018, a man and woman were shot and killed by a gunman at a Kroger grocery store in Jeffersontown, Kentucky, a suburb of Louisville.
The suspect was Gregory A. Bush, age 51 who also exchanged gunfire with a bystander outside the store. After his arrest, Bush was initially charged in state court with two counts of murder and ten counts of wanton endangerment, and held on $5 million bail.
On November 15, 2018, a federal grand jury in the Western District of Kentucky indicted Bush...
The Atomwaffen Division (Atomwaffen meaning "atomic weapons" in German[Note 2]), also known as the National Socialist Resistance Front, is an international far-right extremist and neo-Nazi terrorist network. Formed in 2013 and based in the Southern United States, it has since expanded across the United States and it has also expanded into the United Kingdom, Argentina, Canada, Germany, the Baltic states, and other European countries. The group is described as a part of the alt-right by som Memb...
On November 2, 2018, a mass shooting occurred at Tallahassee Hot Yoga, a yoga studio located in Tallahassee, Florida, United States. The gunman, identified as Scott Paul Beierle, shot six women, two of them fatally, and pistol-whipped a man before killing himself.
Criminal investigators attested to the attacker's hatred of women. The US Secret Service and International Centre for Counter-Terrorism consider the attack an act of misogynist terrorism.
Scott Paul Beierle entered the hot yoga stud...
For the left (which was an attempted murder):
On June 14, 2017, a mass shooting occurred during a practice session for the annual Congressional Baseball Game in Alexandria, Virginia. 66-year-old James Hodgkinson shot four people, including then U.S. House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, U.S. Capitol Police officer Crystal Griner, congressional aide Zack Barth, and lobbyist Matt Mika. A ten-minute shootout took place between Hodgkinson and officers from the Capitol and Alexandria Police before officers shot Hodgkinson, who died from his wound...
I will repeat for you
I am not going to be a martyr for your pacifism. I am prepared to defend myself against those who have openly called for the deaths of people like me.
If you don’t like that then offer solutions rather than “both sides are the same” style blame.
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There is no paradox. Human rights are universal and equal to all. Once you try to limit rights of other groups you step outside the realm of human rights and don’t get to claim them as a privilege for yourself.
If I walk off of a soccer field I get to pick balls with my hands if I so choose but then so can other people.
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