School security guard asked student to stop calling him the n-word. So the school fired him

If you’re deaf and white, I’d respect your lived experience about being deaf.

I’d still listen to the other kinds of deaf experience, because some people (as you know) became deaf after having temporarily been able to hear, and some have not.

Some people are sign language speakers, and some aren’t.

If you want to talk about what you judge to be bigotry or not, about deaf experience, I would listen to you, somewhere else.

What I wouldn’t do is listen to your opinion about the n-word.

That has nothing to do with your deafness, and you’re lecturing people trying to put the wishes and needs and opinions of black people over people who don’t care, because it doesn’t affect them in any way.

You’re taking a thread that’s not about you, and making it all about you.

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The thing is, “race” is a completely arbitrary, imaginary social construct that destroys millions of lives globally over centuries and could have been avoided and never even resulted in a discussion of the n-word because it wouldn’t have had reason to exist.

I don’t know how to explain it any more plainly, so I think maybe I’ll stop here.

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No, they should, if I use it as an excuse to either marginalize them or to not deal with my own disability. My oppression or experiences should not give me carte blanche to determine what is right or wrong. My humanity, my inherent worth is unimpeachable, but if they do marginalize those things, well they can get lost. Hopefully permanently.

I give more weight to my own experiences. However, it is solipsistic to insist that my own views, beliefs, or my interpretation of my own experiences must be more important than any views, beliefs, or interpretation of lived experiences of anyone else. Even if those are of their views, beliefs, and interpretations of me! How arrogant I would be to say so.

Actually, I agree with you.

Then when you find out how black people feel about the n-word, listen to them, not yourself.

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Perhaps. I can see the possibility. I was trying to make what I think really are some serious points, but then inadvertently mutated to a different direction. Still enjoyed this discussion, though.

No your moral compass should do that, assuming you have one.

Were not talking about ‘right and wrong’ or people’s individual core values, despite all the tangents that have been posted.

We’re talking about racism and the n-word, which is the actual subject at hand, regardless to all your repeated goalpost moving and bloviated attempts at derailment.

You’re off topic.

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Excellent intro to several types of “otherness” but specifically the chapter on deaf culture applies to current convo.

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Knight Weeble?

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He should not have been fired for that. What complete bullshit. If one reads the recap of the situation, an assistant principal was there and called security in to help with a combative student. The student kept calling the guard names. He kept saying don’t call me that, etc., And finally got frustrated and repeated it back to the student, “Don’t call me…!” in utter disgust and reprobation. Then later was fired for uttering it.

Now that asshole student and any other asshole student knows they can race bait any security guard into frustration and get fired and the school administration will do it. Precisely the opposite thing that needs to occur. That district just handed the bad kids and bullies the keys to the school. All because some white administrators felt their white supremacy supersedes discipline of unruly students.

There is no finite length to which a white supremacist will go to promote their ideology and keep their boot on the back of brown-skinned people’s necks. There is no limit to how far a bigot will go to try to enforce their idea that they are superior to the object of their hatred. Given half a chance, they will twist or ignore every rule and every law to suit their agenda.

This is exactly the kind of national news we need right now. Root out and expose white supremacy in every form: individuals, institutional, legal, in media, in every form. Expose and extinguish.

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The OP meant the phrase “n-word” not the word it is used to avoid saying.

We have already hashed this out way up thread… and no, not necessarily.

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Exactly this. An old adage says that law will be interpreted for friends and applied for foes.
I am almost sure that they used the n-word as excuse for firing him, and they had it in the list of people to watch for mistakes.
But now bullies know that they have a weapon to use against other and they could insult everyone: this could be the desired outcome, because I think that some kind of bully is nurtured.

Besides, the zero policy forbids to give the bully a pair of kicks in the butt? Just asking…

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When Cher pops up in the least expected of places…

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Good on her.

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There’s a good reason she’s such an icon

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Agree, she’s awesome. But what a fucked up country that we have to be “saved” by a celebrity when something goes wrong.

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Same as it ever was.

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