Yeah yeah, and who gives a fuck what effect any kind of speech has on anyone else, amirite? They’re not like you, and that’s their own damn fault.
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You aren’t attending the conference, so it’s not about you. You are not the only person to consider. Not everyone agrees with this, and we really shouldn’t be treating people who don’t agree with you as absurd human beings. Because they are still human beings. I think it should be up to the people attending, not you and your “thought-thought police”.
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Again, the attendees should decide.
No, because this isn’t coming down from a house committee. The individuals in the field get to decide if they invite this guy or not.
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I’m not sure who yo are arguing with but it isn’t me. I haven’t expressed an opinion on the organisers one way or the other.
Thomas, we agree that speech should be protected from legal issues. We are all in agreement with that.
But booting someone from a conf because they are a jackwagon is on par with shunning an asn because they generally spam people. This is a protocol issue, not a thought police issue.
If you are running winxp sp1, even if you haven’t Slammered me, I can still disinvite you from my network.
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I don’t want to live in a world where people can be banned from speaking on a tech conference or kicked out of a job for writing a political screed in their off-the-job time. This attitude will protect you too, once the pendulum swings back.
If you talk about A on a conference about A, what you think about B, C, and D should have absolutely no bearing - at least as long as you keep talking just about A.
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Therefore based on the screams of The Perpetually Offended, aka the online version of a lynch mob.
Don’t forget ol’ McCarthy had popular support too.
Yeah… even though I’ve been mostly arguing with you I think I should say that you do have a point. There are probably a lot people out there who can give just as good a conference talk as this guy who aren’t white male bigots, and it’d be nice if they got a shot instead.
I’d like to live in a world where we can separate a person’s art or skills from their personal beliefs, and we could say “That guys makes some good points about functional programming” without worrying about what else he believes. But I’d also like to live in a world where the tech industry is more diverse and accepting and is generally filled with fewer assholes. Sometimes the line is hard to find.
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He’s also the object of perennial rehabilitation attempts by the right wing.
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No, it won’t. It already doesn’t. My word is still considered half of yours, even thought we live in the “enlightened west”. This atttitude is deployed to protect the privileged, not the rest of us. My whiteness protects me from somethings and not others.
Until he didn’t. He was a government agent. it’s not the same. Since you won’t believe me, due to me being a woman and all, maybe go read @japhroaig’s comment. He says the same. Maybe you’ll believe him, since he’s a dude. You’ve made your lack of respect for me pretty clear.
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Well, you always have a choice…
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In spirit I agree, in specifics I don’t. It feels like a conversation of, “well I should be allowed to run 50,000 volts through this circuit, it’s their problem if they don’t monitor the amperage”. You and I both know that doesn’t fly in the real world :D. Shit dawg, electric car 
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For this to happen, I think there needs to be a pro-active change in the field. The people who dominate it have to work to change it, and support the people who are not overly represented. There are still some percentage of the field who doesn’t think it’s a problem, because they think it’s actually a meritocracy, or who literally don’t care about trying to make the field more diverse.
To change things, we all have to work together on this issue. It’s the only way it’s going to change, I think.
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No one should ever run 50 kv through any circuit, because the dangers of not monitoring the amperage are just too grave.
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How does someone who manages to derail and grind so many threads to a halt here manage to keep doing so?
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Yes, and that is the point I was driving too. I believe we should be free to do, speak, and think things. But they all have consequences.
Just like running insane current through a circuit has consequences ( I’d like to see the fire though :D)
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Just because you ran 50,000V through one circuit doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be allowed to run 100V through a completely different circuit.
Yeah, we are talking the same language. I really don’t think we disagree except perhaps about semantics.
What fire?
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I know, right? It’s pretty bad when 30 seconds after a thread is posted you already know it’s going to wind up in “feelings are for the plebes” territory in less than 24 hours.
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