Soul-crushing office-speak spreads

Would you regard empathy as linguistically undesirable? Before Hitler came along, lots of academics used German.

I’m not putting any value to the fact that they were German. The article was simply stating that they took germanic sentence structures with them into academic English.

Not entirely on topic here - but I thought it was tangentially related and wanted to get it out. :slight_smile:

What is a Frankfurt school dogwhistle?

Not sure what fields you mean I am critiquing, but there is a whole lot of interaction between corporations and organizational researchers.

Not to mention Porter and all that type of corporate strategy literature. There were a lot of influential German researchers in the field that moved to the US and started publishing in English instead.

I don’t mean that it is the single reason for corporate speak, but is one source - and one way that popular phrases spread.

You used the term academia, and that is a wide field of people and areas, of course. It seems you’re speaking to a particular field of academia, which is not all of academia, of course. The interactions between academia and the corporate world are not as interactive in all fields, is my point. Obviously, there is a much direct relationships between business schools and corporations, much as there is between scientific fields and corporations that make products based on scientific research (chemistry, aeronautics, etc).

My point was that not all fields have the same impact on the corporate world, and by stating academia, you tend to make people think you’re talking about all academic fields (epsecially the humanities), not particular ones. I do take your point about corporate speak having its own theoretical and academic underpinnings, and I think you could have been more specific in pointing that out.

Yeah, I agree with you. I tend to write with the assumption that everyone has the same frame of mind as I do, especially when I am on the go.

Good thing that I managed to get my point across on the second try. :slight_smile:

We all do that, so no worries. We have to really work to get out point across sometimes. Clarity and specificity matters, and we alll struggle with that notion, because we assume everyone has the same framework as we do - that’s often not the case, of course.

Plus, in another thread, there has been discussion specifically about the Frankfurt school of critical theory, which is what @HMSGoose was referring to. It has become heated at time.

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It’s what happens when people are in a situation when they absolutely must address an concept they don’t have the vocabulary for, or can’t bring to mind the word they need that moment. Normally, people just shy away from thinking about things outside their vocabulary (or outside the bit of vocabulary that’s at hand), but the workplace has an irresistible force to it. A person’s vocabulary might be the immovable object, but squeezed in between, people manage to let their ideas squirt out of the test chamber one way or another.

I’ve grown to be okay with it. As a techwriter, it’s my job to translate as much of the squirted gobblety-gook into more conventional vocabulary. It’s job security.

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From wikipedia

Dog-whistle politics is political messaging employing coded language that appears to mean one thing to the general population but has an additional, different or more specific resonance for a targeted subgroup. The phrase is only used as a pejorative, because of the inherently deceptive nature of the practice and because the dog-whistle messages are frequently themselves distasteful, for example by empathising with racist or revolutionary attitudes. It is an analogy to a dog whistle, whose high-frequency whistle is heard by dogs, but is inaudible to humans.

In certain conservative subgroups, mere mention of the"Frankfurt School" is likely to bring up a wholly formed conspiracy theory that somehow ties the policies of the Democratic party into a Communist conspiracy designed to overthrow Western Civilization, and white supremacy and establish a Zionist Occupied Government.

Less politically “attuned” people aren’t necessarily aware of the DEPTHS of this conspiracy theory, and might regard the Frankfurt school as a quaint relic of the 1960s, if they have even heard of it.

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Even in networking, when you ping a node, the point is not to convey information to the subject. Like, when you glance at someone on the street, they might see you doing that and get the information that you are looking at them, but (usually) you’re not glancing in order to signal “I AM LOOKING AT YOU WITH A CERTAIN EXPRESSION ON MY FACE THAT MEANS SOMETHING,” you’re just visually perceiving them.

I bet you really hated finger.

/ducks and runs

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It’s inaudible to vegetarians and dirty commies.

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It’s lazy composition when an old geezer uses it. When a young person uses it, it’s language evolution. After the generation that knows better has died off, it becomes proper English.

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It’s lazy composition when an old geezer uses it. When a young person uses it, it’s language evolution. After the generation that knows better has died off, it becomes proper English.

doesn’t the existence of libraries throw a spanner into your little theory?

Check your sarcasm meter.

Just because Chaucer’s work is written down, doesn’t enshrined that usage as proper English. Someday, Stephen King is going to seem just as archaic. (Assuming the language is being spoken at all.)

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