The case against Batman giving all his wealth to charity

The real lesson is social equity - like crime fighting- is an ongoing process which never ends. But like crime fighting- it can make progress and avert disasters. But equity addresses these problems in a broader basis rather than the vigilante band aid on one wound approach.

So - if we were putting all those funds into effective efforts to address equity since Bruce’s grandparents time; his parents wouldn’t have been murdered and there wouldn’t be a Batman. Nor would there be any justification for a mentally unstable, sartorially weird, extrajudicial individual breaking the law to save the law.

I mean - that getup. When has an arch villain been afraid of clothing? And what does the world’s greatest detective base his conclusion that criminals are irrationally afraid of bats upon? The Journal of Criminology and Animal Avatar Reactions?

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It seems really intimidating when you compare it to someone themed after a songbird and not wearing pants.

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He was once free like you…

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Both the movies and comics have Bruce Wayne attend plenty of charity events and the like. It’s what rich people do in reality as well – give (generally a small fraction of their wealth) to charities in order to look good, network with other rich people who can afford $1000+/plate dinners, and so on.

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This reminds me of the ‘superhero ad’ in Stross’ The Annihilation Score

THE SCENE: A boringly normal-looking suburban street in Anytown, England. Dogs bark, children shout, a delivery van drives slowly past.

CUT TO: A different street, more densely urban: houses on one side, a big new charter school campus on the other. Uniformed kids hang around outside the gates and in the playground…
VOICE-OVER: Keeping our schools and homes safe.
PAN RIGHT: A street corner adjacent to the school. Just round the corner, past more buildings, the camera zooms in to frame a man in a lime-green PERVERT SUIT and cloak, crouching in front of a house. He brandishes a teddy bear at the camera.

PERVERT SUIT: Arr, I am NONCE-BOY! I hang out on street corners near schools and ’ipnotize your kids! ’Oo knows what hideous perversions I fantasize about perpetrating on their smooth underage flesh, what nightmarish pedobear-related fantasies I intend to corrupt their innocent little souls with —

ZOOM OUT: A posse of SUPERHEROES are racing down the side street towards PERVERT SUIT.

SUPERHERO 1: It’s NONCE-BOY! Get ’im!
SUPERHERO 2: On my way!
SUPERHERO 3 (female): Flying scissor kick! Oh Piroge jump! They Fight.

CUT TO: NONCE-BOY lying prone on the pavement with his hands and feet hog-tied in elaborate Japanese rope bondage style. The SUPERHEROES stand over him. He grins horribly at the camera.

NONCE-BOY: They’re making a big mistake.

CUT-TO: A Police interview room. TWO INSPECTORS are cross-examining NONCE-BOY.

INSPECTOR 1: And what exactly did SUPERHERO 1 say?
NONCE-BOY: I heard him distinctly say, “It’s NONCE-BOY! Get ’im!” Then he attacked me without provocation.
INSPECTOR 2: Are you denying your previous? You’ve done time for hideous crimes of hideousness! He obviously thought you were about to get up to your old tricks again.
NONCE-BOY: Nevertheless, I has my Human Rights! Including the right not to be beaten up by random vigilantes! (Confidingly): And there’s more.
INSPECTOR 1: What else?
NONCE-BOY: SUPERHERO 3 used her Oh Piroge jump on me. That’s sexual assault, that is!

CUT-TO: A Police briefing room with the TWO INSPECTORS.

INSPECTOR 2: It’s no good. He’s got us bang to rights.
INSPECTOR 1: We can’t let him go! He’s a pervert —
INSPECTOR 2: But he’s right about one thing. The SUPERHEROES who took him down are vigilantes. They didn’t observe due process, they didn’t identify a suspect in the process of committing or preparing a crime, they aren’t sworn officers of the law like you and me, they used dubious or outright illegal methods, and they inadvertently handed his defense a watertight case. In fact, they’ll be lucky if he doesn’t sue them.
INSPECTOR 1: All we can do is let him go and hope he falls downstairs on his way out of the cell block.
INSPECTOR 2: And this is a one-story-high police station, so that’s not terribly likely.
INSPECTOR 1: (Addresses the camera): So NONCE-BOY walks free, all because those SUPERHEROES acted like idiots.

ZOOM IN: INSPECTOR 1
INSPECTOR 1: Want to be a SUPERHERO? Don’t be like these numpties! Join up with TPCF. Get wise, get trained, get your villain.

FADE TO: Home Office Logo, Transhuman Policy Coordination Force contact information.

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It’s a flying squirrel. Or Fledermaus.

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You’ve never played Paranoia, have you?

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I’m of the opinion that all people are quite selfish, but most people aren’t so selfish they’re willing to sacrifice others for material gain above comfortable survival. And practically nobody is so selfish they’re willing to destroy society in order to get the last penny they don’t already own. Those people are psychopathic multibillionaires and are, in a way, less than human, due to lacking human empathy.

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The Marvel Defenders TV series was pretty dumb overall but I did like the part when Luke Cage called out Danny Rand for being a privileged asshole after Rand was about to use his magic kung-fu to beat the shit out of some poor Black teenager who had been hired by the bad guys.

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Me too. That was great… Danny Rand in general brought that show down, honestly.

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It’s fine to have an idiot or two on your super-team (see: Thor and Star Lord) but they have to be lovable idiots.

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The world’s getting very metaphysical about Batman, especially now, since a certain virus may have come from a bat. Who’s side are you really on, Batman?

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An largely unstated use of Bruce Wayne’s funds is the funding of Justice League facilities and equipment. Most importantly of all setting up stipends so middle class/working class superheroes don’t have to consider bank robbery to make ends meet.

Clark Kent earns a print journalist salary. Barry Allen is a municipal civil servant.

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Superman owns a fortress of solitude worth incalculable amounts in advanced alien technology. Can fly up and take an asteroid of pure gold whenever he needs cash or crush a few charcoal briquettes into Hope Diamonds.

Barry Allen does have a reasonable salary. Decent benefits and a pension. Though I doubt he gets superhero paid leave. That would put the kibosh on the old secret identity.

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He only gets the defined benefits pension and the good health plan because he started working before the 1980s.

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He’s aging well. Especially for a guy with that metabolism.

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The real estate value of something in the middle of the North Pole is negligible. Its not exactly a hot development area. He also has to be careful not to flood the market with too much space gold or diamonds to maintain his secret identity and avoid inflation.

There are plenty of heroes who don’t have easy access to self-supporting wealth. For example Martian Manhunter just spends his time lounging in the Justice League Watchtower, like a houseguest who crashes on the sofa for weeks. Between his shapeshifting and telepathy, he could be making a lot of money grifting or professional gambling. That Wayne stipend is one way to be sure he doesn’t feel a need for money in his pocket.

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"To preserve our ocean domain, we’ve shifted our economy from aquatic wealth extraction to a service economy taking advantage of terrestrial wealth extraction.:

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