The DEA just added a promising anti-opioid addiction herb to Schedule 1, because reasons

My agency is supports the Department of Defense, happiness isn’t in our budget.

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Yup, the conventional wisdom is that if aspirin were discovered today, it would never pass the FDA.

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Mitragyna speciosa is an evergreen tree that can grow to a height of 25 m (82 ft) tall and the trunk may grow to a 3 ft (0.91 m) diameter

And since it’s indigenous to the tropical jungles of Southeast Asia, it might not take too well to cooler drier climes.

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Less study is needed. It’s like saying you need to study nettle and prickly bushes more then scheduling them, because that’s one literal hedge that nobody’s pulling 88 hour weeks by washing and sleeping on the corner of the lot. These are tropical and less desert-adapted for now. Nice Alternet and WIRED mentions…I can’t much tell who the big pharma declaring pipeline within the period of the ban is yet… Maybe some of the plant’s genes need to be in the next reactor bacterium or viral insertion protocol (e. coli having a usual rather than performant generation time, way over 14 minutes.) Maybe the genes need to be light-activated or demethylated otherwise.

It has evidence and AMA Consultation but perhaps no western subspecies crop fostering and cohort schedule, DOC DOHS MIL and DOD forward allowances, 11k and 40k on file, availability maturity model, etc. How can the next mandarin over trust it, if it doesn’t have 4 copies stapled to a nuclear scientist?

Love the botox (that ship has sailed) shout-out. If only we had more Policy Surgical Dermatologists, policy’d be less plain uuuugly (after a week to heal.)

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quibble: the kratom alkaloids are beta-carbolines close to yohimbine and could conceivably be used as feedstocks in sythesizing the latter.

If you accept that illicit drug transactions account for an estimated 10% of the world economy and that banks launder proceeds as a fully liquid instrument, it may be that the public health aspects of kratom are insignificant to the entities who benefit from kratom’s DEA ban.

Under US law, there are many entities exempt from money laundering laws: banks, named entities on the NYSE, and federal agencies, commodities traders, and investment companies among them.

To be clear, the DEA released a notice of intent for a proposed rule on 8/31/2016. The proposal is not yet law by administrative fiat. The proposal is ambiguously written, initially stating a ban on the major alkaloids mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine, but frequently conflating them with the kratom leaf in later commentary, like banning THC directly yet creating a de facto ban on cannabis by implication.

The 6 page notice is available for view in the Federal Register:
Schedules of Controlled Substances: Temporary Placement of Mitragynine and 7-Hydroxymitragynine Into Schedule I

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Then what?

Grab the money?

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Very helpful. Thanks for the contribution.

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Not to argue with you, because that’s certainly true, but many other “herbal viagra” supplements they sell in gas stations and sex shops have been tested to contain actual large doses of viagra. Not analogs like the creepy weed analogs, they’re actually dosed with the drugs.

and investment companies among them

I don’t believe that’s correct.

I work with registered investment analysts and am forced to take training on money laundering yearly.

You’re welcome, happy to help!

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Of course. There will be some putting something shady in the supplements, the market for those products is very poorly regulated. But the ones that really do sell themselves as an all natural alternative to drugs rarely contain compounds that do anything, sometimes it just has random weeds and plants that are filler and are not labeled. Though this also tends to happen with supplements from big name brands as well.

Exposure, maybe? As it’s not clear who’s making the buck, like W R Hearst the last time.

To the mind of the Religious Right, “happiness” is synonymous with “Jesus”, and if you’re pursuing any sort of worldly happiness, then you’re just a sinner who deserves hell (unless you’re one of their leadership figures, in which case, Jesus is rewarding you for your faith in this world)

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I don’t know how I’ve lasted this long on this planet without it ever having occurred to me that this is what yer founder-daddies intended by the phrase. Maybe you’re better off without that kind of pursuit.

Well, that’s the thing:

They didn’t intend that. Explicitly. But the American Religious Right has been mythologizing for a very long time that the Founding Fathers founded the USA as a Christian Nation, and they’ve made up their minds on the issue.

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Yeah, I know. But it’s still remarkable to me that I never saw that others could interpret it that way. I’ve always considered myself able to imagine what others can believe. I disappoint me.

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Code for Federal Regulations 31 CFR 1010.205 specifies exempted institutions.

(vii) Commodity pool operator;
(viii) Commodity trading advisor; or
(ix) Investment company.

In any case, there are plenty of extra-national dodges around US laws against direct money laundering, particularly if the entity concerned is a multinational.

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Sometimes, but my spouse works for the payments industry. Whenever we walk into a shop she can literally rattle off which brands of “natural alternative” has high doses of not at all natural prescription chemicals.

My thoughts exactly, as a chronic pain patient currently prescribed tramadol, a so-called “non-narcotic opioid”. If serious investigation of this plant’s properties could potentially lead to more efficacious and/or better-tolerated treatments (not to mention any supposed prospects with regard to treating opioid dependency, the fatal toll of which is now in the headlines on a daily basis) then improperly scheduling it could be catastrophic. It’s not just short-sighted from a patient perspective - it could also cost “legit” industry a lot of money by forcing demand into the black market. Presumably many people who found it beneficial will keep taking it, and soon-to-be-criminals will meet the demand through illicit importation regardless. Indeed, many people who just found out about it this week may begin to do so as a result of this burst of news coverage. So frustrating…

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