The DNC picked a bunch of sleazy lobbyists as superdelegates, can't figure out why no one is donating

I wonder if … never mind. I will never have the chutzpah or the sense of entitlement of the DNC. I can only hope BoingBoing offer a training package in “Advanced chutzpah and Entitlement” at a special rate so I can try that line on someone in the PTA and see what happens.

“the same mistake” happens to be the strategy which keeps the corporate donations coming in. I sometimes wonder what part of this mistake the well paid DNC operatives who benefit from those corporate donations don’t understand. Feel free to post answers on a postcard. Similarly when discussing investment bankers, one shouldnt be surprised that most of them dont think there is too much financial intermediation in the US economy.

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None. You use colonels for that.
Okay, technically one, the leader; this sort of thing works better if the leader outranks the others.

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Amusingly, this was the response that drew at the time:

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I see we’re on the same page…

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Youre really going to attempt to compare McGovern (who lost every state by one), to Hillary, who won the popular vote, lost the electoral college by 40,000 votes? You must be Russian.

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Yeah, according to you, they just want to relive 1972, over and over and over.

Plus Bernie didnt take any attacks at all. Hillary didnt attack him (he wasnt a threat, she didnt want to alienate his supporters). Meanwhile, all the Republicans and Russians are egging Bernie on overtly and covertly. And Khal Bernie, getting applauded from both sides of the aisle, thinks Hey, maybe I should keep going!

Its pretty likely the same people who “wanted their country back” and disliked Obama because “you know”, would also find a reservoir of hatred for the Jewish-Atheist Leninist-Socialist from Vermont. But not until he had eliminated Hillary.

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I should think so. He’d been an “Independent” since 1990. In 2015, instead of running as an Independent, he essentially highjacked the Democratic Party for 18 months. While running, he lies and says he will remain in the party, should he lose. Nevertheless, after he’s lost the nomination, and the party is no longer of use to him, he promptly withdraws from the party. For Bernie is an honorable man.

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We definitely need a unified national standard. Not only on election practices such as polling place location,hours and early voting days but security & technology. This whole " each individual state Will set it’s own practices" was obviously a sop to southern states to get them to sign up in the first place and no longer has a bonafide use.(other than neo jim crow)

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Wait…he did stay with the party until after the election…are you saying he owes eternal fealty to the party of Clinton?

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No, Sanders left the Democratic Party almost immediately so he didn’t have to try and raise funds for the party. He literally just announced his intention to run as an independent for the foreseeable future again Sunday. Passionate but inaccurate rhetoric is sort of the hallmark of populism, and Sanders isn’t really an exception. He doesn’t back down on his principles, but he’s still a politician.

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Actually, rereading what you said it makes even less sense than how I perceived it. Sanders using the Democratic Party is one of the biggest negatives against him.

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1, I’ll take ideological purity over party loyalty any day of the week. If you’re going to draw the line somewhere, I’d rather draw it on what someone actually believes in and fights for, than on how much money they raise for the organization.

2, You don’t think there’s anything at all hypocritical about someone defending superdelegates overriding the vote counts to elect a nominee, and then bitching about the electoral college doing the same to elect a president?

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Isn’t that the same complaint people keep voicing about the Green and Libertarian parties?

This, a thousand times over. Look- If someone genuinely thinks that she was the best possible candidate, I can respect supporting her- But what I want is for them to admit this. Not that any criticism of her was valid, just that it exists and was widely believed. That the prejudice against her would make her difficult to elect.

I want every Hillary supporter out there to admit that they knew the risk, and they decided that she was worth risking a Trump presidency.

Is that why leftist Berniecrats are breaking fundraising records and sweeping local races?

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I voted in the NH primary. Sanders won by a greater than 50% margin. In some counties, he got double the number of votes she did.

The next morning, it was officially declared a tie. I remember this vividly every time a Clinton supporter brings up how “she actually won the popular vote…”

It is impossible for an independent candidate to win an election without the backing of one of the parties, and this is by design of both Democrats and Republicans.

Both parties refuse to participate in televised debates that include minor candidates. They have written laws which place a higher burden on people to get on the ballot, while exempting themselves. They’ve seen to it that even our grade school textbooks teach that we are a two party government, rather than the pluralistic truth.

Perot got nearly 20% of the popular vote and not one single electoral vote. Two thirds of Americans say they want a third party candidate, but even with a massive social media push, while facing two of the most unpopular presidential candidates in history, the minor parties weren’t even able to crack 5%.

As long as the two main parties collude to maintain a monopoly on the electoral process, you have no right to complain about “outsiders infiltrating the party”. Either they’re public institutions which need to be open to all comers, or they’re private organizations which cannot be allowed to be the gatekeepers to public office. You can’t have it both ways.

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Nah, look at people like petzl; they’re too busy “whatabouting” Bernie and first-denying-then-flatly-refusing-to-discuss any actual criticism of Queen Hillary.

Hell, I posted something calling out this exact behavior and WHOOPS it got taken down because Hillary supporters would rather flag-and-forget than actually admit that voting for Hillary in the primaries was like gambling the title to your crappy car in Vegas: you don’t win much of value if you do win, but if you lose you’re completely screwed.

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If you used expressions like “people like petzl” then you were probably taken down for violating BB community guidelines.