The epic "tights are/aren't pants" discussion!

I feel like the “unable to admit it” aspect is part of the underlying gender dynamics at play here, though. In a culture where men hold structural power, we’d expect the men who control that power (and those reaching for it) to punish those openly seeking sexual access outside that power structure. Hence the cultural tendency to obfuscate the sex appeal of male bodies.

In a matriarchy I suspect we’d contrariwise be arguing about how much of men’s bodies ought to be exposed and take it for granted that all men are “a little bit bi.”

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Dunno, humans aren’t binary creatures. Can’t speak for other women, but I find no utility in speculating over a random male’s sexual inklings.

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I’ve had to do a lot of processing about how my body is politicized, but I won’t claim to have “the answer” and I’ve been veering off-topic anyway, so I better stop my musings here.

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Fair 'nuff.

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But what if that random male had great legs?

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You did say “nearly,” but here’s a Wodaabe man, anyway:

I’d stop short of calling it matriarchal, but here are some Tuareg men and women (from the musical group Tartit). The men (at least, these men) tend to cover their faces. I think it has to do with being out in the desert elements, but the women (or, at least, these women) don’t do it:

And, while it’s perhaps less germane to this discussion, he would’ve turned 100 years old a few days ago, so here’s Rufus Thomas struttin’ his stuff:

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Such a tart, lookit all that leg!

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An abundance of taste!

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Shapely calves… Indecent!

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Tights:


Leggings:

Which one shows more of a woman’s skin/shape? And which one cannot be worn by a child traveling on an employee’s pass?

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If your legs had bruises like mine, 40 denier isn’t tights. Opacity is a favor to the world achieved only at 80+

I think he was joking as the hand writing in the note is very neat and was implying that men handwriting is sloppy.

Later, it meanders into a digression on antique furniture.

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Yeah, that occured to me. As I said above, sometimes I read things way too literally.

Must mean I need a break.

Apologies all.

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Sorry, Louis. You can’t board this plane dressed like that.

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Henry boasted about his calves, and was delighted to hear that Francis I of France had skinny legs.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Workshop_of_Hans_Holbein_the_Younger_-Portrait_of_Henry_VIII-_Google_Art_Project.jpg

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This is among the most neckbeardy things I’ve read all day

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Aye, now there’s a finely turned leg!

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