I’ve turned to my wife before and said, “Wow, that’s a lot of tits here.”
It isn’t often I’m called on to say, “Whoa. A bit much?”
Wow, 282 comments? No, I’m not going to try. I give up.
they only use landlines up there.
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I’m hoping for a Malazan Book of the Fallen adaptation.
I became desensitized to breasts watching “The Ghost Whisperer” with my GF.
She asked me why I kept laughing and I told her every scene was about Jennifer Love Hewitts tits. She said “That’s silly - oh my god…”
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Not Judy Dench or Helen Miran. Not Interested.
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It’s a great point.
I’m among those who enjoy seeing beautiful humans, but nude women are used as set decorations in GoT.
It always seems absurd that in this harsh land of Westeros every woman has clear skin with nary a scar nor blemish.
Having carefully trimmed pubes is absurd. Whores would be shaved, as throughout history, to prevent pests. Adding mirkins would be a great fun touch!
The presentation of these women has been purely decorative for the twenty first century male gaze, and fulfils no other function.
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This whole complaint seems more than a little ridiculous. What, exactly, would you expect to happen in a pseudo medieval society? The concern police need to give it a rest.
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I don’t know… I think they totally intended for the scene to play out like that, rather than the more nuanced scene in the book.
I don’t know… HBO has hit some major home runs out of the park. Sopranos had some similar issues to GOT regarding women as background decorations, but I felt that both Deadwood and Carnival had a much better balance in their depictions of prostitutes [eta] and women in general in a sexist society.
He knows how to get a dial tone…
This is a super interesting dynamic and one I’ve run afoul of myself. Thinking back, I castigate myself for assuming I was incompatible with several people because they wanted to adopt such a role. As I knew them, they were self empowered, self directed and self assured without exception but because they decided, possibly temporarily, possibly on a whim, to adopt a submissive role whilst the relationship was forming, I assumed I would be saving myself some time and pain and backed out.
Poring over previous mistakes is a bad habit of mine and I’ve convinced myself that my youthful absolutism may have cheated me out of relationships with some damn good folks who may have been making decisions based on fleeting adherence to cultural mores, wary self-protection, or a million other reasons for maintaining an image that didn’t fully represent their core personality.
The older I get the more I recognise that more socially dexterous people had cottoned on to the fact, at a much earlier age than myself, of the fluidity of personal and social identity emerging from a cultural milieu that was perfectly aware of such complexities and that being conversant with and comfortable enough to subvert and play with such identity was a sign of true self-empowerment and confidence.
Everyone, well, maybe not everyone, but most adults grow to recognise the game and I think it’s in a zone, after recognition but before understanding, where otherwise intelligent people can misappropriate intent to the point where they believe that ‘no always means yes’ or some equally troubling contrariety.
Anyway, I thought you hit a cultural nerve there but I guess it was also one of my own. 
Maybe I should have listened to my Crowleyan friends with all their ideas of super-fluid identity when I was younger but maybe such ideas in the mind of someone too pigheaded to come to them on their own is not such a good idea.
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It can be tough, and I don’t want to boil it down to semi sarcastic catchphrases… (But I will)…but Do unto others. So if a partner wants to wear handcuffs and I want to prance around in a unicorn hood, and we both respect each other, then awesome.
Except for a few, err issues (a few!? twitch) I am pretty easy to get along with. And if a person can accept me I can usually accept them.
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“Because right now Game Of Thrones is condemning men who would
misuse women from a position of power, while simultaneously misusing
women from a position of power. And that irony is as thick as the blood
spilt on the show each week.”
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Strangely, I’ve always seen sex as it’s own ‘anything goes’ zone all on it’s own. I meant the social/intellectual content, I didn’t want to ‘win’ or ‘be in charge’ or even ‘be the man/wear the trousers’ or whatever other misappropriated element of game that interacting adults play with. But always seeking to avoid the game, always finding the antithesis to it, whilst promoted by, say, transactional psychology, was probably just a sign that I wasn’t comfortable enough, or conversant enough with the subtle rules of such social role-play.
I’ll happily dress as a unicorn with a smurf fetish if it will please my partner, but outside of the orgasm, I was uncomfortable with subverting what I thought of as my precious identity.
Gollum!
I’d expect that the dudes who frequented brothels would be just as likely to get naked there as the women who worked in them. I also imagine that in an all-male army you’d be more than likely to see a bunch of naked dudes bathing in the river together once in a while. Yet those aren’t the kinds of scenes the show is known for.
The complaint here isn’t that the women aren’t welcomed into traditionally male roles in the medieval-inspired culture of Westeros or even that they are frequently nude—the complaint is that they are the only ones whose nude bodies are regularly put on display for the television audience.
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Yeah but televisions didn’t even exist in real reality back when dragons were kicking around, didn’t think of that, did you!
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I did not call the GoT audience perverts. That is a direct quote from an executive at the network.
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So which one is its public face and which one is the ‘actual’ private one since they do both things openly?
