The only path to victory in the Middle Earth election is to appeal to the moderate orc voter

I don’t recall nerds arguing about it until the films. And I feel like that’s because its handled adequately in the books. Since its become a meme its been more of a snarky pop criticism hot takes shouting “plot hole!” thing than nerds arguing about it.

As are few other options like having Bombadil hide it. But that serves a mechanical purpose. It helps underline that the ring can’t be hidden, but more importantly it establishes that a good portion of the people in that meeting don’t want to confront Sauron and Gandalf has to push them into it. They’re not in there to lay out that over land is the only option or inform the reader of why different things aren’t the plot.


In before anyone starts griping about Gandalf or Galadriel being “too old” for the opposing side of the ticket.


I was ready to support Gandalf when he was running on the Grey platform but now he’s basically running as Saruman-lite. Honestly, sometimes it’s hard to even tell those two apart anymore.


Don’t get me started on that WINO Radegast. Even when its really important he barely bothers to show up and help the right side of things.


He’s an Orc, not a Troll. Stop being an Orcist…not all evil minion races look alike ya know.

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why not both? sauron was able to corrupt man and elf alike because of their will to power

destroying the ring is a practical way to change the game, but who’s to say there’s a story not yet written where we actually fix things?

it’s okay, though. it’s fantasy for a reason

One ring to equitably distribute resources and decision-making authority to them all…


“We don’t have a king. We’re an anarcho-syndicalist commune”


I dunno, they can’t 100% bad…

ETA: paste the link in again


I said Trolling. Yanking some chains, if you will.



so true.

i mean it’s almost as if jrr was trying to convey some point. i mean, really. wouldn’t it be amazing if all we had to do* was throw twitter into the fire to get rid of trump?

*) which i guess is the whole point of the ending with the subjugation of the shire and frodo leaving. even winning, you lose. that’s why war is the worst solution, even when it’s necessary ( necessary because nobody is willing to do the real work. me included. )

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Where does this allegory lead to? A Ring War?? Total annihilation of the Orcs? The dawn of the Fourth Reich … eh, sorry … Age???

Well, not for nothing, but they did address that:

‘And that we shall not find on the roads to the Sea,’ said Galdor. ‘If the return to Iarwain be thought too dangerous, then flight to the Sea is now fraught with gravest peril. My heart tells me that Sauron will expect us to take the western way, when he learns what has befallen. He soon will. The Nine have been unhorsed indeed but that is but a respite, ere they find new steeds and swifter.’
‘The westward road seems easiest. Therefore it must be shunned. It will be watched. Too often the Elves have fled that way. Now at this last we must take a hard road, a road unforeseen. There lies our hope, if hope it be.’

They addressed it because it’s an obvious option that would have illogical not to have addressed, and it would have stood out by its absence. Like throwing it in the sea, or taking it to Tommy B, or using it, or keeping it in Rivendell, or going through Lebennin. Or asking a certain group of birds for a lift at least part way. As a smart man said, they could have dropped in much closer to Mordor and an unexpected direction. Saving a lot of time, trouble and suffering.

In any event, it’s a small hole that bothered JRR, but doesn’t lessen any of the story’s beauty or design. Now, why the Doors of Durin refer to “Moria” and not “Khazad-dûm” given that Narvi and Celebrimbor made the doors in the Second Age before the balrog awoke and the Dwarrowdelf was abandoned in the Third Age is another kettle of fish. That’s an unforgivable gaffe that no reader should forgive.


Alas the google wont find me a direct link to OGLAF


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