In part because the “popular” meaning is derived from an attempt to secure humans a “special” place somehow distinct from other animals. Prior to widespread acceptance of evolution, no one would have considered it important to distinguish monkeys from apes, but once humans became apes we couldn’t be dirty monkeys! Sure we “descended” from them distantly, but we were different and special. So the ape/monkey distinction had to be emphasized, especially in response to the taunts of anti-evolutionists.
And, of course, the ape lineages are all twisted around to ensure that we don’t share a genus with other dirty apes.
The anthropologists got it wrong when they named our species Homo sapiens (‘wise man’). In any case it’s an arrogant and bigheaded thing to say, wisdom being one of our least evident features. In reality, we are Pan narrans, the storytelling chimpanzee.
-Terry Pratchett, The Science of Discworld II: The Globe
From the wiki quote you provided I’d have to disagree. From what I can see here the nomenclature goes like this:
Higher primates = Simians.
Simians = Old world monkeys + (apes+humans) + new world monkeys.
Then, Simians - new world monkeys (went to south america) = catarrhines
catarrhines- Old world monkeys - (apes+humans) = 0 (the state of the world today)
Now, maybe I’m still wrong (happens all the time), but that’s what this wiki excerpt says, I believe
Regardless, if the entity in questions does indeed self-identify as an otherkin, and does self-identify as a ‘monkey’ then I’m deeply sorry should I have offended the entity in question.
Any force that the monkey uses to raise himself will exert an equal and opposite force on the rope. that force will lift the weight by the same amount. Newtonian physics FTW.
Newton was famous for his many monkey experiments… he kept a troup of monkeys in his Cambridge college rooms. But he was mainly trying to turn their poop into gold.
The chimp essentially has to pull the rope to climb it, creating an impulse force that the weight does not. Those little impulses will be enough to make the whole difference.
The chimp and the weight are the precisely the same weight, the rope is weightless, there is pulley is perfectly frictionless. As the chimp pulls up, the weight rises an equal with every pull.
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But once the chimpanzee is higher than the weight
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The chimp being higher will never have an effect. They are equal weight. They exert the same force downward. The height is immaterial. They do not “equal out” if one is higher than the other.
When the chimp holds on with one hand and reaches UP with the other, the hand he reaches with will go higher than his attachment to the rope. The chimp wins.
