Transparency - changes to the BBS

[LutherBlisset]

@tinoesroho

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Post #666.

Well done, @tinoesroho.

[teknocholer]

@orenwolf

The goal is to have all members be equal.

And yet I feel set apart in a way I did not in the past. The offer has been made to have regulars display an identifying symbol in their avatars (one we cannot opt out of if the majority vote for it) that tells one and all that we are more equal than other members. That seems to be at odds with your goal.

@orenwolf

Anyone who comes to the BBS and shows a willingness to abide by the community guidelines should be an equal member of the community.

In the past everyone had an equal chance to become a regular, even members the general community didn’t think much of. We are told there will still be new regulars. The criteria for selection are still unknown, but will they be as even-handed and impersonal as the old ones?

[TobinL]

@orenwolf

More flags!

So flagging with “Other, Not sure here” would be just fine then?

[anon6955837]

[anon61221983]

I’ve been thinking about this a bit. Isn’t there some amount of creating “tiers” that will happen no matter what? Because some people are going to make accounts, post maybe once or twice a month at most, some even less than that, and not treat this place as a community. Where as others WILL be here daily, posting often and treating this place as a community. That’s two-tiers either way, just now, the people that do spend time here, I think, are being made to feel that the community we’ve built isn’t a valuable part of the BBS.

But I agree that we’re not elitist aristocracy. Because anyone who participates enough could indeed become a regular, as long as they abide by the rules we all agreed to operate under.

[anon36155390]

The regulars badge has to somehow involve this:
(source)

[orenwolf]

@TobinL

So flagging with “Other, Not sure here” would be just fine then?

Yes, absolutely.

[strokeybeard]

@orenwolf

'm not trying to be opaque. We created a two-teir system. I don’t fault the users who chose to use said system, I fault us (the BB Staff) for creating it in the first place.

I’m sorry, I think I’ve missed something. What’s wrong with a 2 tier system again?

[strokeybeard]

@nimelennar

And Cory’s protagonists are always the little guy, fighting for solutions developed from the bottom up, as opposed to those imposed from the top down. They’re always fighting against someone telling them what they can or cannot do, with no explanation given, no input requested, and no recourse but to band together and fight.

And having psychotic breaks in the process, at least in Magic Kingdom and EST (I’ve not read much of his fiction beyond this).

Probably not the bit you want to emulate, though.

[mocon]

@TobinL

The Lounge was getting a bit crowded anyway.

[FFabian]

@orenwolf

There is a dark downside to discussing members of any community behind their backs, no matter how well-intentioned. It’s human nature and I get that, and I know it will go on regardless, but even in my short time here I saw someone reach “regular” status who had been talked about negatively in those moderation threads. That’s not an atmosphere we want to support.

Why the sudden change of heart? You were a proponent of those specific threads.

[orenwolf]

I started a long response to this but changed my mind. I’ve explained both my thinking personally, and BBs thinking in general, to death in this thread by now. I think I’m just talking in circles at this point to elaborate further.

[anon6955837]

He was a proponent of the thread when it was working and strongly moderated it when it was not.

[TobinL]

I don’t see anybody else in here…

[FFabian]

I’m a bit late to the party but for the record I’m with @Medievalist on this issue.

Perhaps the use of sock-puppets and brigading will lessen now …

[mocon]

@politeruin

i’m guessing there’s no time limit for when you should download them. But don’t quote me on that.

(I wanted to just quote you on that and write nothing down here, but bbs won’t let me.)

[mocon]

[tinoesroho]

What. Are you suggesting that regulars engaged in sockpuppeteering and brigrading? They did not. Even though I was a Regular but a short while, I read a lot of the posts and saw no such behavior. If you were expressing wishes that channers and gators and Trumpists would cease, on that sentiment we are agreed.

[mocon]

@anon78706664

I’m Irregular, so…

[mocon]

@ChuckV

We all have lives outside the BBS.

Well, not all of us