Trump administration will require every visitor to the USA to divulge all social media identities

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That depends on the platform. Facebook, for example, is strongly against. Google does not care.

The regulations, however, require you to disclose all accounts and I would believe that google and others can find out when two accounts are actually linked to a single person. It is trivial in the times of big data.

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Yet…

Yeah, I’m not doing that.

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Ok, I’ll admit. I’m confused. If all phone numbers and social media information needs to be handed over at the border (think border officials and long queues), won’t this just generate a queue a mile long? Where do they collect that information? Surely you’d need an extra day just to get through the queue!

I visit the US once a year for a holiday (I’m not a US citizen) but I do hold a valid US visa already. As I’ve been reading I see mention of “application for”. If that’s the case how does that work - I remember being told that having a valid US visa does not automatically admit one into the country. So do they define “application” as in going to an embassy, or ‘applying’ to enter the country at the border?

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Link yourself with a hardcore enemy of Liberty :smiley:

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No, you’ll need to disclose them when applying for a new visa. No disclosure = no visa = not possible to get on a plane to the USA.

It seems that esta does not require the same disclosure, for now at least.

Actually the USA unsurprisingly isn’t party to the 1954 Convention relating to the Status of Stateless Persons or the Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness from 1961.

A recent example (article here on BB) is the case of Jakiw Palij - the US government stripped him of his US citizenship making him stateless.

I know that’s a reference to something I should be familiar with. But I am having a brain fart.

What goes around comes around is a true adage for international travel. Since Brazilian visitors to the US are fingerprinted on arrival, Brazil fingerprints all US citizens when they arrive in Brazil. If Customs puts this proposal into effect, be assured that the rest of the world will reciprocate.

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All of it? Including aliases on Boingboing, tumblr, pornhub…? Damn.

No. From the proposed regulation:

“One question lists multiple social media platforms and requires the applicant to provide any identifiers used by applicants for those platforms during the five years preceding the date of application.”

The worst is this will probably lead to retaliatory measures, just like when we added fees/fingerprinting and other countries applied the same rules back at us.

Then again, I mostly travel to Canada and the EU, both of which have respect for human rights so maybe it won’t be an issue…

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Pretty much this. Talking to Russian friends in 2000 or so when Putin was just spooling up his regime it was said that everyone knew that the Russian tax code was designed in such a way that it was impossible to be in compliance, even with an army of accountants and lawyers. That way he could lock up anyone he wanted on tax evasion charges. This was before the plutonium in the tea years, of course.

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Yeah, those, but I’ve also been hearing/reading stories from people being asked about their views on Trump by customs in the US. Those may or may not have been triggered by views shared on social media, though.

The post-9/11 security state concerns itself with such things (because terrorist watchmakers).

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I wonder how my intended response will go: “No opinion on the man.”

Also… asking people’s opinion of POTUS or anyone for that matter is mind-bogglingly disgusting. So wrong, USA. So wrong.

Now I’m gonna have to pursuade my daughter from marrying a Texas boy as planned. Wedding’s got to be there, 'cause they ain’t coming to Canada on account of not allowed to being their guns. No sh*t…

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I can’t find the Tweet at the moment, but I recall a story from a few months ago of a journalist being asked by border guards if they intended to “write bad things about our President”.

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Hilarious!

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I understand that “any identifiers used by applicants for those platforms during the last five years” means that multiple accounts must be listed, don’t you?