My point was that it’s up to all U.S. citizens to protect the Constitution whether they’re private or public citizens. If one is a private citizen of the United States, then they must honor that privilege by honoring and defending the United States Constitution. Otherwise, they really don’t belong here and should find another system of government that better suits them somewhere else. North Korea comes to mind…
Currently laughing at the idea that those were the only copies.
I’ll just put it this way. This draconian measure only guaranteed that even more encrypted copies of everything have been spread. Here’s some new wikileaks “insurance”…
http://wlstorage.net/torrent/wlinsurance-20130815-A.aes256.torrent (3.6Gb)
http://wlstorage.net/torrent/wlinsurance-20130815-B.aes256.torrent (49Gb)
http://wlstorage.net/torrent/wlinsurance-20130815-C.aes256.torrent (349GB)
Expose enough corruption, it sometimes gets people moving in directions the power structure doesn’t like… at all.
I was told by superiors to come here and create confusion with false and misleading information. I see I am too late 
From the Intelligence communities viewpoint, even an immediate, complete disclosure of the Snowden material is a small price to pay in return for swift end to the discussion and discrediting the whistle-blowers.
Errmm… I agreed with just about everything you had to say until you got to that part. I think you vastly underestimate the loss in money (which is more precious than life itself) to these guys and their lackeys should there be a full disclosure of the insurance files among many other “issues” that’ll result.
If the powers that be weren’t truly concerned with Snowden’s full payload, they would’ve “called his bluff” a long time ago.
There were posters here on Boing Boing a while ago (where’d they go, by the way?) that kept telling me and everyone else over and over again that Putin was going to hand over Snowden for various reasons.
One of the reasons they gave for Russia to hand over Snowden was supposed to be because Snowden’s dead man’s switch (DeathMonkey) wasn’t feared by international leaders…
They really shouldn’t jab a stick into an already angry killer bee hive — Just sayin’.
Just the filth doing some bullying while on a fishing expedition.
Who´s a good boy, UK? Who´s a good, gooooood boy? Yes, that´s right, YOU are a good boy, such a good BOOOYYYY.
Let me tell you one thing dude: I appreciate your diligent posting on all things related to human rights, surveillance state and the like on this site. I don´t mean this ironic.
Did you read the rather entertaining Adam Curtis piece about our ‘intelligence’ service?A keystone Kops approach is exactly what I’d expect of em.
When my kid was about six, I explained to him that whenever somebody says, “trust me,” you should trust them. He laughed.
I actually gasped at the headline.
Feels like the start of a slow march somewhere.
UK Intel, let me introduce you to every copyright-business lobbying agency. Shake hands. Great!
Now, don’t you think that it’s possible, likely, or even most certainly, um, certain that there are other copies of the data out there? Perhaps even thousands?
Can you spell c-l-u-e-l-e-s-s? I knew you could.
Before you associate the phrase ‘UK Intel’ with the sci-fi that is James Bond movies, read this fascinating article on the Beeb:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/posts/BUGGER
You assume that “getting back stolen data” was the goal. It wasn’t. Intimidation was and is.
Also, “the terrorists didn’t win”. They are just a convenient, while plausible reason for establishing an authoritarian order benefitting only a certain subset of people and institutions (who happen to be rich) of a given society.
PJ at groklaw quitting because of email surveillance. Can’t take it anymore.
Oh please, the UK isn’t some sort of poodle, doing its American masters bidding, and which could be retrained to do noble things once freed. It’s doing this because it wants to, because its citizens elect the same guys over and over again.
Scotland is looking better and better. I think it is too late to move up there and get to vote “Yes” in the referendum; but we’d be the right side of the border.
“Proper stewardship” might include leaking it…
I can’t even IMAGINE the number of distributed backups that I would have of documents like this. For my own personal stuff I keep at least 4 backups of everything, two of them encrypted at two different offsite locations. Really important stuff I upload encrypted to cloud storage.
If I had this stuff, I would do all of the above but also I’d have copies uploaded on storage in at least two foreign countries, and probably a few encrypted copies on 64GB SD cards taped under the table, maybe in some location like inside a small waterproof box in the bushes of a public park, etc.
As if they have a choice about voting in people who support this sort of thing: http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/07/a-bad-dream.html (Charles Stross on UK politics and how all parties have certain terrible policies in common)
Actually, it is best if government agents retain their ignorance on this subject. They can break a few things and go home, secure in the knowledge they have done their duty and those of us who prefer our freedoms and consider ourselves to actually be the people in charge of the government instead of the other way around will continue on our merry way.
I suspect some of this is symbolic with the unspoken message “Nice place you have here, be a shame if anything happened to it…or to you.”
The terrorists won on October 26, 2001.
