UK Internet censorship plan no less stupid than it was last year

Thats not how the internet works. Domain names are a mutually agreed mapping between IP addresses and arbitary names. Nothing more. You and I could create that xxx TLD if we wanted to. A Government could do it. Porn sites could (and actually might) create their own DNS root and not tell the UK Government.

The Pirate Bay has been blocked by all the main UK ISPs - Of course their proxies havenā€™t, nor accessing via VPN, nor just typing in one of their IP addresses. The porn filter will be just as trivially defeated by determined younglings .

AFAIK the IP addresses ARE blocked, but the proxies are pretty much everywhere. Thatā€™s for a handful of NZB and torrent sites. There are MILLIONS of porn sites. Theyā€™ll have to automate blocking because thereā€™s no way to deal with that much porn byā€¦ wait for itā€¦ hand.

Remember this is the UK and not the US. The restrictions on what you can sell in the UK porn market (held on alternate Tuesdays around here when the fruit and veg market isnā€™t on) are much stricter than the US and a lot of whatā€™s freely available on-line is illegal to sell and actually illegal to possess, even on your hard drive, in the UK. Bondage porn, however classy (!), is illegal, for instance.

Thereā€™s also no real protection of free speech in the UK, so Holocaust denial, bomb-making plans and sundry other hate-speech and incitement to violence is all illegal here. Which Iā€™m fine with and which you agree is fair game for filtering, so if the government decides that eg rape porn should be illegal and added to the list of things that we shouldnā€™t possess, is that really the human rights battle you want to be fighting?

Also, I may just be getting middle-aged.

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Also some classic doublespeak there according to The Guardian. Cameron is asking the ISPā€™s straight out to call the filters ā€œdefault onā€ when customers will in fact have to opt in to them when they sign up. Actually, maybe calling it default on is a straight lie?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/21/david-cameron-war-internet-porn

This is what I was saying above, this whole filter strikes me as people saying, ā€œWhen I was a kid we had to work for our porn.ā€ I donā€™t even know the provenance of the earliest porn I got access to when I was a teenager (presumably a kid stole it from their dad or a convenience store somewhere up the chain, but I didnā€™t know that kid).

Was it crucial to my development that my access to porn was limited so that I cherished the porn I could get? I really donā€™t think thatā€™s the case. From what Iā€™ve read (in places I canā€™t remember or cite, but I swear it happened) kids donā€™t access nearly as much porn online as people think they do.

If you are really concerned, put a family computer in the living room, not a computer in your kidā€™s bedroom. By making them wait until you are out or until youā€™ve gone to bed and by making them be careful about their browser histories, youā€™ll simulate the experience you had as a child.

Possession is one thing, exposure is another.

But I see your point, and the inherent lunacy in controlling peoplesā€™ morality- and the ethical quagmire morality, legality and practicality entails when one attempts to distill a single, over-arching rule.

Iā€™m fine with hate-speech, etc. being punishable when originating within oneā€™s own borders. I do not agree with restricting access to it in general. (and thus maybe pretending it does not exist in the world)

As for rape porn: Itā€™s not my cup of tea. But damn it, if itā€™s role-playing between consenting adults, I canā€™t really see why it should be illegal. Itā€™s not like keeping it legal will make producers of it put up large billboards and show it on BBC every Monday morning.

Itā€™s not about porn. It about letting others dictate a specific, perhaps even arbitrary, set of morals upon a population.

EDIT:
I donā€™t meant to seem ornery, even though my tone might suggest it:)

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