UK protestors topple statue of slave trader, throw it in the river

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If you get some scuba gear and a block and tackle, can you claim it as salvage?

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Nicolas Cage movie incomingā€¦

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Canā€™t say the thought hasnā€™t crossed my mind! :grin:

I expect it will probably be recovered by the local authority, and my guess is it will be scrapped rather than reinstated.

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The Society of Merchant Venturers will probably claim it, but getting the statue back up where it was will be a lot harder than it was to finally get it down. It will end up in a privately owned garden or something.

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Some history in this thread:

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Thereā€™s talk in Oxford about protesting at Oriel College, where there is a statue of Cecil Rhodes

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Good.
Whereā€™s that Kipling one on a campus or is that gone already?

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How history actually gets erased:

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When the clicked on the article I assumed it would be talking about the 1850ā€™s and 1860ā€™s. Nope. This happened during the lifetime of people who are still alive to remember it happening.

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Oh, I love the Hydraulic Press Channel ā€“ that would be lovely to see! (Or even a special UK version of it just for this.)

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Kipling! Not Kipling!

Please donā€™t tell me Kipling was a racist?

:anguished:

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Most people only know of ā€œThe Jungle Bookā€ but few have dared look at his military poetry. And I wonā€™t link to it here.

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If you remember the 1960s, you werenā€™t really there

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Oops, should have said 1860ā€™s up there. Will edit.

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By modern terms, absolutely. But he was worlds better than many of his contemporaries, had a genuine (if frequently paternalistic) appreciation of the Indian natives, and was far from an uncritical booster of the Empire like people have tended to claim. Heā€™s well worth reading, even ā€“ especially ā€“ if you disagree with his politics; the man could really spin a yarn.

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Iā€™ve read a few of his books and I read his short stories as a child. I have great fondness for his writing.

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You do have to leave on the ā€œbit of a racistā€ filter while reading him.
ā€œHe wasnā€™t the worst,ā€ isnā€™t a great defence, but I get your point.

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(As far as I know the Kipling that makes cakes is still OK.)

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