OTOH if certain types of clothes are intended in effect to function as a “uniform” for a sex of person, it could be that people wearing those clothes are simply presumed to be of that sex, as a confirmation bias. It facilitates leches leching upon people while minimizing their potential for embarrassment.
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Sure, the business is entitled to put bigotry and misogyny in their core principles if they so desire (barring laws to the contrary). The public are equally entitled to express their displeasure with such bigotry and misogyny.
Commerce doesn’t entitle a company to behave without consequence.
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Discourse has misattributed that quote to me 
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This seems so clearly gender neutral. No leggings (frequently female wear) and no showing your underwear (frequently guys with low-riding pants showing off their boxers). It all seems reasonable in that you are flying free, potentially represent the airline, and the airline has a right to have it their way!
oh wow!
There’s a bug worth reporting. Let me fix that.
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But who is he?
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Done and done. Very well said.
I’ll go find other threads to post derailing jokes to 
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If it’s restricting our behavior in a way that it doesn’t restrict men’s than yes… it is.
That’s not what sexist means – or at best its trivialization of the idea. A restaurant requiring men to wear a jacket is not (necessarily) being sexist. An airline requiring those flying for free not to wear leggings is not (necessarily) being sexist.
Actually, at my son & daughter’s school the dress code is way harder on the boys. I live next to the school, and the girls get away with wearing just about anything as long as they don’t flaunt it, there’s far less room for interpretation for the boys. I think the code is great, it’s a rigorous and challenging school and the code helps gets the kids in a professional mindset. Plus my son wears all my 80’s hipster ties!
Male students are expected to wear shirt and tie with dress slacks, Dockers, khaki, or khaki with side pockets pants. Dress shirts including knit shirts with a collar can be worn with properly knotted and positioned ties. Ties are to be properly positioned at the neck at all times. Shirts that do not have a top collar button are not appropriate for ties. Dress shirts should be tucked in the dress pants not rolled under at all times and never hang loosely over the pants. No denim, or denim look-a-likes; balloon pants, fatigues, sweat pants, riveted pants, or jeans are permitted. Suit jackets, sport jackets, v-neck sweaters, v-neck vest, or cardigan sweaters must be worn from October 1st to April 30th each school year. Your buttoned shirt and tie must be visible above the v-neck to be acceptable. Crew neck sweaters, turtle neck sweaters, sweaters with logos, i.e. NIKE, FUBU etc. are not permitted. Corporate symbols, i.e. Ralph Lauren polo player symbol, are permitted.
Female students are required to wear a dress, skirt, culottes, or dress slacks and a blouse, Capri pants covering the calf, and a blouse. No jeans of any style or color, lycra, stirrup, spandex, or sweat pants are permitted. The hem of a dress or skirt must go beyond the length of your arm when standing. Girls tops must substantiallycover the hips; therefore, midriffs and backless dresses and tops are considered inappropriate for school and unacceptable. Jean “style” slacks are unacceptable such as patch pockets, studs, but no blue denim of any kind.
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A restaurant requiring men to wear a jacket but women could wear anything from raggedy jean shorts to a formal gown WOULD be sexist.
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Not wanting what I wear dictated to me by a corporation is “entitlement”? Seriously? It’s my body. I’ll do with as I please. I’ll thank you to take your condescension elsewhere please.
You are not being dictated to. No one is forcing you or anyone else to wear or to do anything. If you want to accept a free ticket on United, you must meet their dress code. No one requires that you accept a free ticket. Your rights are not being violated here.
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Holy mole. This is my last one.
When a man enters Chez panisse, or Gramercy, or le Bernadin, a man will be handed a jacket. Gracefully. A woman will brusquely be asked to wear an ill fitting jacket.
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Lucy Worsley tries on Beau Brummel’s style.
about 27m30s in.
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Sure, one never knows what kind of racial/ethnic signifiers a person or group subscribe to. Many places forbid flip-flops, which are descended from Japanese geta and zōri. Nobody has ever complained about my geta to me before, but I know that there could be a pass or penalty factor where flip-flops are concerned. Does them being wood make a difference? I don’t know. But I would rather where I go and what I do not be up to people’s caprice about them.
That’s just panisse envy!
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Comfort is a priority for me, so leggings are my pant of choice in colder weather. They* tell me that while wearing leggings, I must have my butt and genital area completely covered by some other piece of clothing (a tunic or sweater, or even short skirt or dress), otherwise it’s considered an obscenity. I think this is silly, but follow the dictates of “fashion” so as not to offend the public.
*family members, acquaintances, and a concerned neighbor
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*gulp*
It wasn’t a work thing, at the time I was actually a student. My MIL gave us some of her passes for a trip to visit family in Greece. So I’m not sure about ethical conundra as you seem to be perceiving.
I know that with Air Canada the passes have as always been definitively not included in any contracts with employees, but offered to staff as a perk (and to help fill seats). The expectations were, and I suspect remain, for people to wear ‘nice’ clothing. I saw a guy in a jean shirt get turned away.
Of course the definition of ‘nice’ is fluid and so requires some written guidelines. But even kids understand the difference between casual and dressing up. Also, people not traveling for free can wear whatever they want. I once flew to Paris in boxers and a t-shirt.
One thing is for sure. The employee who gave those kids and parents that pass is probably going to lose his or her job, and the airline will likely restrict the availability of those passes in the future. I know my MIL was very clear she didn’t want to be answering for any bad behavior on her passes.
So we all get to feel a little righteous at the badly implemented dress code. The employee gets to lose his or her job for doing a favor and giving someone some free plane tickets. And likely all the other employees will see reduced or eliminated access to one of the only real perks of working in an otherwise shitty industry.
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But what about his pants (other than the crotch)? Is it just because of the walking that the fabric around his shins and just under his knees looks odd?
