Utah "monolith" was removed and broken down by annoyed locals

I picked that reportage because they identified it as “identical” rather than the more accurate, “vaguely similar.” Though given how every aspect of all the reporting on the subject has been very silly and something between mostly and totally inaccurate, calling them “identical” feels like it’s par for the course.

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There is the same problem in Iceland.

For some reason tourists come to the island and build piles of stones all over the place. Iceland has a long history of erecting cairns to mark sites as diverse as good fishing spots, the locations of ancient graves and most importantly, to show safe paths through the lava fields. These are absolute lifesavers in the winter when they keep you away from holes in the rock and allow you to navigate even in near zero visibility.

Please stop, they’re trashing the ecosystem and the history of the country.

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The Wikipedia page says whoever installed it did damage the site - they used some form of caulk to seal the base and worse still, they cut into the bedrock to form a foundation:

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Cityscapes are generally NOT protected biomes, not does additional traffic matter much, when you’ve paved over and/or built upon every acre of land nearby.

Again, just no. Graffiti in a city is not the same as hundreds of people stomping around an illegal artwork in the desert. Your example is deeply flawed.

Now you’re just moving the goalposts.

Are you now saying it’s ok to graffitti someone’s home, as long as that home is located in a city?

I live in a city. Less than 100m from where I live is the only known habitat of a particular snail. Is that - the snail or it’s habitat - fragile? Should it be protected? It’s still in the city so the answer must be no, right?

This year has shown, if nothing else, how fragile city biomes are. Within a few weeks fish were back in the canals of venice. The birdsong in san fran has changed this year. There are videos of hawks attacking pigeons in my city, the first time thats been seen in living memory. You may not be used to thinking of a city as a biome, much less as fragile, but that’s on you, not the city.

Excuse me?

My problem with the monolith from the beginning was environmental damage to a fragile biome; no, Banksy’s mileu isn’t the domain of crtically-endangered species, (beyond Black people, but perhaps we can change our culture to threaten them a bit less). But this argument began, when I took issue with the portrayal in the comments here, of the people who removed it.

Here’s the quote:

So people who are upset by this situation are “dim witted locals”, out to “own some libs”, eh? Yeah, no. That’s simply not even close to a given, and it’s not OK; silly prejudice never is.

Banksy’s crowds don’t do much to fish. The crowds around the monolith were causing damage, and furthermore, the installation itself damn well damaged the site. It needed to go, and furthermore, would have cost money for the park staff to remove it; those “dim witted locals” did the right thing.

It’s somewhat a change of subject, but riddle me this: What if the statue had been a 30’ orange Trump, and the crowds consisted almost entirely of the reddest-necked, gee-haw-wearing, ammosexual Trumplets you’ve ever seen? Can you honestly tell me you’d feel the same way?

Next associated question: If this monolith was OK, why not 2? Perhaps 22? Or howzabout 2,222? If you allow this work, why CAN’T someone install a giant Dolt 45 statue, wherever they like? Why not 2,222 enormous Orangenführers, spread all over Yellowstone? Is that still OK?

Personally, I don’t think so.

It’s BLM land, not NPS land.

For sure. But BLM vs NFS vs NP isn’t something most understand.

Seeing the pictures of the removal crew, I sorta don’t look forward to seeing how they deal with the notoriety…they are kinda famous in Moab.

There are things that loggers or miners, or oil drillers can do on BLM land that they can’t do on NPS land. Of course, permits are involved.

Or BASE or bolting new routes or putting up a giant ass sky net for Turkey boogie… BASE on the left exit, break the law and get prosecuted with the right exit.

Hyperbole much?

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And? Pick ANY piece of public land; the analogy works fine.

@Orb Nope. Try answering the question.

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We may be facing a Forge of God type scenario. Perhaps my as yet unborn progeny will slick with the best of them, and avenge us all.

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I had to Google It. Thanks for the tip.

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