That is a real shame.
But the change also isn’t a big deal. I’d love if there was a mostly-vegan pub-grub joint around here! And if the meat and dairy they did offer was all responsibly sourced, all the better for the omnivores in the group.
And you have the terms mixed up here:
Vegan is by definition vegetarian, but a dish could be vegetarian and not vegan.
Now that you’ve made that clear:
An all vegetarian and/or vegan restaurant is by definition kosher and halal (except for the official blessing by the appropriate religious leader).
One that also serves meat products runs into what I talked about above, before your post: preparation is key.
@MikeTheBard: they were probably making do as much as possible in the circumstances. For example, did you keep separate pans, plates, utensils, etc.? That’s the kind of necessary preparation that makes having meat products in the same working kitchen more difficult (and expensive).
That’s the kind of unnecessary preparation that makes having vegan products in the same working kitchen more difficult (and expensive).
Ethical vegans avoid animal products out of compassion, not because they’re poisonous or “ritually unclean.”
Most restaurants that i’ve been to that isn’t exclusively vegan have the disclaimer that the food is prepared in a kitchen that has animal products, and there is a likelihood of preparation on shared work spaces. It’s not an issue for me and my SO, but i can see how this would be a problem for some folks.
I saw a study last year in which people were far less likely to take hummus from a buffet if it had a “Vegan” flag in front of it.
So, maybe not calling themselves a vegan restaurant may help sell vegan food.
Just from casual observation of people i know they will definitely avoid anything they see is vegan or if you were to mention it to them. Even if it was something that they would totally enjoy.
I’m guessing that at least some people have no idea what vegan really means, other than “woke, anti-meat BS”…
Of course, vegan food is often quite yummy and their losing out. And plenty of just “normal” foods are vegan, like hummus. People who avoid it just because it has a vegan tag in front of it are either just being performative assholes or they’re ignorant and don’t care to learn.
Even beyond any “woke” or hippy image they might have, they might think it’ll just suck or be devoid of flavor. If I was going to tell someone that something like a candied apple were vegan they’d turn it down when otherwise they might happily eat it 
And what percentage is fruitarian?
Exactly… same with hummus or any other vegan food. Same for kosher or halal foods, too. I can go and eat at a restaurant that is vegan, ksoher, or halal, and no biggie, because I’m omnivorous.
But I see no reason why more places can’t offer a wider variety of types of food for an increasingly diverse landscape for people’s food choices. 
Fridge DMZ Zone
“This food is made of compromise.”
But the candied apple that lacks the vegan label may very well not be vegan, thanks to bone char filtering and bleaching.
The college I went to had three types of peanut butter-smooth, crunchy, and vegetarian. We asked about changing the fryer oil to an all vegetable one and the food service manager told us that would mean getting additional fryers, and they just didn’t have the room for them. Mind you, we had dinosaurs roaming the campus as we ate, so things have changed for the better since.
I mean that vegetarian food includes for example cheese and honey, which vegans can’t have.
I know what vegan means, and what vegetarian means, and the difference between them.
That’s not what you wrote, so I was clarifying.
You said McDonald’s “has a couple of vegan (not necessarily vegetarian) options on the menu.”
So you said that vegan meals might not necessarily be vegetarian.
It’s incorrect. Some people reading the thread might be less familiar with the terms.
You could probably still edit your post and we could delete this back and forth.
I have a bunch of allergies to stuff that most vegans consider staples, so I just avoid anything labelled vegan or gluten-free because there’s overwhelming odds it’s made from something I can’t have.
What the fuckity fuck?! I’m lost, but then again, I only buy peanut butter with a maximum of two ingredients: peanuts and salt (assuming I can’t find peanut-only on a given shopping trip, it does happen).
First off, what do you mean by “ethical” vegans? This phrasing requires some defining on your part. Not all vegan/vegetarians drop meat for lofty reasons. For some, it’s environmental reasons, for others, sure, it’s political, for me, well, let’s just say I can smell the putrescence at the meat counter.
Secondly, those of us who eliminated mammals and dinosaurs from our diets for decades do not have gut enzymes necessary to process those proteins, if we are exposed to even a small amount, it may as well be poison, our bodies reject it hard, and often somewhat painfully. Last time I was exposed, it took two weeks for my body to get back to something akin to working order, and the first 24 hours came with a fever. Good times.
Yeah, the food service company thought vegetarians needed “special” peanut butter. The other stuff was just as vegetarian, but it wasn’t labeled as such or something. It took two years to convince them to just fry everything in a veg based fryer oil instead of a tallow based one.
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