Vice wants to bring back indoor smoking sections: "local coffee shop . . . would be a lot cooler"

Just please try not to hit innocent targets.

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I’d never dine at a “Smoking allowed” restaurant again. I lived through the times when they had ashtrays at tables in the Hospital cafeteria. Trying to eat at a restaurant, diner or fast food place which people smoking their cancer sticks right next to you is like someone feeding you a plate of cigarette butts. Can’t taste, smell or admire the food because your eyes are watering. Luckily, CA is pretty intolerant of that particular thing.

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Isn’t this just basically saying, in a roundabout manner, “smoking is cool”?

I sometimes come upon buildings or rooms where people once smoked years or decades ago, and they still stink of stale tobacco.

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This might be the dumbest thing I read all month. I know the month is young and we live in an era of burning stupid, but “I did’t personally experience how shitty it was when smoking was allowed everywhere so smoking should be allowed everywhere” is breathtakingly idiotic.

Hey, Vice, tell me you’re taking tobacco money while denying to my face you’re taking tobacco money. :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

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I’m not sure they’re being so “roundabout” here… I think that is exactly what they’re saying.

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The other night, I was at a University of Florida game. UF was playing McNeese, a level lower than UF, so the game was a blowout. (Kudos to the McNeese fans for staying through the whole game to see their team get a touchdown at the end; the game ended at 49-7.)

There was a group of kids who were clearly college students. The stadium was packed at the beginning, but was pretty empty by the fourth quarter, so they pulled out their vapes. They weren’t rude; they just wanted a hit of pot or something.

I haven’t smelled a lot of vapes in my life, so I came away with the following observations:

  1. The strawberry-smelling stuff is by far the best smelling exhalation from anything I’ve ever experienced. It’s not GREAT, mind you, but it’s far less disgusting than tobacco or anything else.
  2. My girlfriend and I could still tell they were using pot. Sorry, stoners, we can tell. (I don’t partake; I never liked the smell of pot. If I ever run for president, I’m going to get lit up by night-show comics for not ever using pot. But oh well. It just wasn’t for me. You can use it all you want. I’m not judging; I eat, McDonald’s, after all.)
  3. The one vape has a weird, chemically smell that I can’t believe someone willfully put in their lungs.
  4. One of the kids just looked awful and miserable. He was not enjoying the use of the product.
  5. While I don’t want to hang out with a bunch of vapers, I can say that vape smoke is less annoying to experience than cigarette and cigar smoke. I’d rather breathe fresh air, but you do you.

I’m actually writing this in a coffee shop, and I’m grateful that there is no smoke smell.

I wish I could tell that writer how deeply unpleasant bars and restaurants were in the smoking days to a non-smoker. I understand why she’d want it, but man, to those of us who hate smoking, it’s just disgusting.

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Please, no. I’m happy for you to enjoy pot in whatever way you like, just not indoors where others are affected by it. It’s bad enough smelling it everywhere in parks and outdoor public places.

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“Cancer candy” as at least some Zoomers say. Don’t let the sweet stench fool you, if you smell it, your lung cancer risk just went up.

@werdnagreb: Worst place? Driving down the road. How often? Almost daily. Sometimes at 7:30 in the morning on the freeway. :flushed:

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I smoke because I’m a fucking idiot. I don’t want indoor smoking, vaping, or anything else.

I went to a bar restaurant that had a smoking section and the whole place was like being inside a campfire. Was awful.

fuck that

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I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that maybe you’re not a fucking idiot, but that smoking is, no joke, the most difficult addiction to get ahead of. And don’t even cut yourself down for trying for the first time either. It’s why it’s so important to speak out against the kind of bullshit put forth in the OP. Everybody is vulnerable.

(that said, quitting today will make your life better tomorrow, try to ignore the pain of withdrawal—it goes away. This isn’t a “live longer” game- it’s about living better today, and every day that you don’t smoke)
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… huffing antifreeze is awesome :face_with_spiral_eyes:

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Shout out to the idiots! /raises hand

Last time in Vegas, we stayed at MGM Park, which is non-smoking. It was really nice to walk though the casino (or really anywhere) and breathe easy. There were only two outdoor smoking areas, which were a slog to get to from our room, but I didn’t mind (also, I don’t smoke much anymore, 6/day (stacked toward the evenings when it’s cocktail time))

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Yep. I worked as a bartender during college and a few years after in the mid to late 80s. I breathed in so much secondhand smoke that by 1990, I had had enough of it. When I got married a year later, I’d pitch HUGE fits with my husband when we’d go out to dinner with my in-laws. They insisted on driving so my MIL could smoke in their car. :nauseated_face: We’d return home smelling like an ashtray.

The writer is fucking clueless.

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Eww… gross!

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ahhh , sorRry !!
please , make that extra large mocha with the extra ( 5th ) shot to go !!
i shall take it to a nearby park , find a parking space where no other cars or visitors to the park are visible , turn the car radio to npr , roll the windows up , and hotbox !

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I agree with all the, “it’s a filthy habit,” etc, etc comments, even though I, like a couple other posters am a sometimes smoker.
One anecdote, though, to point out the disparity between how people react to smoking versus other polluting habits…
A couple years ago a friend (who has since quit, go, Jack!) was walking on the sidewalk in a main square in downtown Portland, ME, smoking a cigarette. While the entire square was full of idling trucks (including diesel) and autos, he got chastised at least twice for smoking his cigarette while walking. But no one shook their fist at the autos, you know?
And one more thing…
Indoor smoking is gross. Smoking in general is gross. I’d just remind everyone that it’s marketed very specifically toward low-income communities, quite successfully, so when we’re criticizing it we’re inadvertently criticizing that population, in a way, so we should try to be compassionate.

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Oh yeah… personally, I don’t get too bothered by people smoking outside, as long as they’re not blowing it right in my face, kind of thing… And you’re right about other kinds of pollution!

Agreed and it’s a very hard habit to kick, by all accounts…

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This writer is dead to me.

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She hasn’t written it yet, but she’ll recycle it.

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