I’m all for folks hunting with edged weapons, but they need to be able to finish the job post-haste if the sword thrust isn’t the killing blow it should be. IIRC, my friend is a bow hunter, but he carries a revolver in case the arrow doesn’t find its mark.
The metric of invasiveness is not necessarily about the problems they cause us Humans, but the problems they cause to other animals in the ecosystem. As it happens, they are outcompeting native animals for food sources, not unlike asian carp. Should we let the carp live and let live, too?
Your point is well taken, though. We are the ultimate invasive species.
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Hmm. I’ve never used dogs for hunting anything, so I can’t speak to the barbarity of the practice. I do feel that if someone considers themselves a “trophy hunter” instead of doing it for sustenance, then they should be confined to using some of the tools mentioned above (atl-atl, spear, knife, etc.). You wanna have a neat-o mounted African Bull Elephant in your smoking room? Fine, here’s a javelin and a k-bar. Ring when you’re finished.
So for me, barbarity comes into hunting with trophy hunters. If a person hunts for sustenance, even with dogs, that seems to indicate to me that they’ll do it as efficiently and quickly as possible, and for the most part that’s okay with me.
Yeah, that would lead to needless suffering. Even with a proper rifle, it can be hard to kill an elephant (read George Orwell’s “To Kill an Elephant”.
I’m not big on trophy hunting either, but if they are approved hunts I am ok with it. In Africa trophy hunters actually contribute a lot to the conservation of animals. Reservations have to be monitored closely. They only have a limited amount of resources. If they aren’t happy where they are, they migrate out of area they end up bumping into people who will poison them to keep them away from their crops and life stock. Sanctioned hunts pay for the rangers salaries, education programs with villagers, pay outs for lost live stock, and the meat is usually donated.
Again, no tolerance for unethical hunters or poachers.
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no, they are invasive as hell, and seriously damaging in CA like everywhere else. but all the hippies in the big city areas think “oh, be kind to piglet, he is Pooh’s friend”
the same people figure meat comes in styrofoam trays wrapped in plastic at whole foods.
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I’m surprised to find this thread still open. I’m still in favor of gun ownership, and wanted to share this video which I recently found. This man’s precision markmanship is astounding.
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Agreed on the unethical folks, and to a degree on the trophy hunters, but I assume we’ll wander into OffTopicLand if we carry the discussion much further here. Frankly it’s a fascinating topic given the range of issues attached.
An understatement of the first order–holy shit that guy is on the money. The only downside is that he’s usually got to clean and carry-out five or six of those stinky fuckers (assuming he carries them out). I’ve field dressed feral hogs in cold weather, and I will never, ever forget the stink coming from the inside of those pigs.
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Woww. This is interesting. When I was writing my previous comment, I had watched the thing twice, the second time paying specific attention to the makeup and hair of the “customers”.
And yet, despite that focused attention, when thinking back over the customers, I tried to sum them up, and came up with “broad spectrum of non-black society” as the best descriptor. At a whim, I scanned back through it. Even in a quick scan, I saw at least two black faces.
At first, I was delighted: I had definitive evidence that I was color-blind! Yay, my brain doesn’t judge people based on race because it doesn’t even notic… wait. That means that because I don’t consciously notice, any subconscious biases I have, will get free rein.
Not only that, but the fact that I didn’t notice the blacks in a bunch of professional, clean, neatly-manicured, successful-looking, etc etc people, MAY just reveal the power of my mind’s blind assumptions that these traits are white traits. sure, my focus on the makeup could mean it’s a bit “nobody sees the gorilla suit”… but really? I was focusing on makeup and hair!
It was a real “seeing the dress as the other color” moment for me. So I didn’t correct it. I left it, and waited for people to pounce on that slip. NOBODY did. Which makes me wonder how many people also believed that the customers were all white, after watching it.
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You’re overthinking it.
Let’s be sure to completely ignore the right to revolution that this country was founded on and that is closer and closer to being utterly necessary in our new police state.
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I suspect many got creeped and decided the shop was not the place, got the idea that the shop wasn’t really a shop after all. That, and the guy behind the counter was good at derailing their train of thought. Giving someone a gruesome tale like that suggests that they don’t really want to sell to you.
Seriously? If you cherry pick the data our crime rates are perfectly normal is a pretty flawed argument. You realise Canada also has “dense gang related stuff” don’t you? What happens when you also cherry pick that out? You end up with garbage research that’s what!
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So dumb, obviously extremely biased, and all of the stories are the result of improper gun storage/locking/safety and/or parents not paying attention!
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