Why (or why not) to vote for Bernie Sanders

OMG. Politifact and the WaPo lost all credibility in this race. “Sanders can only raise 3/4 of the money for his plan with this particular measure he proposed. We rate his statement, 3/4 false.”

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From what I can see around me, she’s denigrating every voting age group. Sanders may have strongest appeal to voters under 35, but the only people in my neighborhood with signs for him are well into their 40’s, and the cars I see bumper stickers on are as frequently driven by oldz as youngz. We’re not dreamers, we are terribly sick of the status quo Clinton stands for.

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I hate the kind of demographic nonsense that politics is about. “How can we get young votes? How can we get black votes?” I think demographics can tell us useful things, but only if you see “We are unpopular with young people” and think, “Hmm… what is it that we are/aren’t doing that makes young people prefer another candidate?” instead of “How can we target advertisements to young people?” or “Screw young people, they don’t vote for us anyway.”

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Seems like Sanders (or his voters) are getting the blame for the Dems losing an (allegedly non partisan) Supreme Court vote in WI last night.

Probably more to do with higher GOP turnout, I’d suspect.

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Asinine interpretation of exit polls. Especially for a non-partisan race. A lot of Bernie supporters would have stayed home if it weren’t for Bernie and probably didn’t impact the election either way. They probably didn’t vote in that race period. Hence, “don’t know.”

It’s not like Republicans didn’t vote.

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https://twitter.com/billhumphreyma/status/717603812958146560

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Good article here about Clinton and her corporatism.

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My mom is a year short of 70, and she thinks Sanders is dreamy.

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ETA: This is live and the segment might be ending already, but the TYT are hammering the NY Daily News.

https://www.tytnetwork.com/live/

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Honestly, I think guns become less of an issue when you work to deal with other problems. As much as I agree with some common sense gun legislation, there are other issues that can lead to some gun violence, which can and should be addressed as well. Sanders is on much of that, I think.

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Okay, right out of the gate: This whole “so sick of Sanders lying about me” thing happened because a Greenpeace activist asked her a question? Who is lying again?

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I’ll say this much for Clinton, her credentials as a corporatist are impeccable.

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I was thinking about this distortion of demographics that the Clinton campaign perceives a bit more this morning. What she and her cronies don’t get is that for the first time in many people’s lives, a lot of us have a candidate to vote for instead of a greater evil to vote against.

I don’t believe Clinton got a fair shake from the media in 2008, but that was her time, not now.

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Apparently American corporations are American people too (my friend).

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Waiting on the slavery charges against corporate owners.

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Bernie Sanders and his young followers have not studied history and as a result form faulty conclusions. The truth be known is that we are incredibly fortunate to have the most productive, inventive, dynamic corporations here in the US. They have transformed the world, reinvented society over the recent decades. In doing so they have become very rich. They are not the problem, they did not cause poverty or inequality. They have created wonderful prosperity for many.
What has occurred is that we made the world better for capitalism and its rewards by changing the rules to meet a changing world: the US deregulated most industries. Trucking, Airline, telecommunications, Energy, Electric, and more. The US became part of a global economy, no longer an island economy.
The end result of the Cold War and the emergence of Asia tripled our competition.
As a result corporation were forced to become leaner, more competitive. As a result many workers who enjoyed nice wages in cushy jobs were outed. This was not a sinister plot but survival. I think as a country we have done well, we should be proud. There are things that can improve the lot of those left out, but we already spend close to $1trillion dollars on federal government programs for the poor, plus what is done at he state level, and this does not include Medicare, or Medicaid!
The answer is to create a better environment so we can build on the industry and institution we have. We do not want or need a revolution but an evolution.

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Yes, that is exactly the problem. We made the world better for capitalism. We didn’t make the world better for humans. Or democracy.

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It’s okay, it’ll trickle down. Eventually.

So who are you supporting, @gerard?

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Pfff.

Piketty.

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