Zoom sued over Bible Study that was zoom-bombed by 'Traumatizing' porn

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Unsolicited dick pics are literally a form of harassment. Period.

Maybe that’s not what you mean by “unmitigated dick” , but there is no room for doubt in this case whether or not it was harassment. There was no mutual consent.

Some stranger coming into your house or office and yelling at you to clean up the place may call themselves an agent of change, but they’re just a harassing trespasser… and that’s a far milder example of what this person did.

This wasn’t a meeting in a public place. This wasn’t a city council meeting or a protest inviting counterprotest. This was a group of people minding their own business who were attacked and harassed by someone just because that someone could.

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Reminder that we have a policy against victim blaming here. Even if tools exist to prevent zoom-bombing, there is an argument to be made that given the ubiquity of the service, making them clear, obvious, and easy to use is still Zoom’s responsibility.

And none of that justifies asshole behaviour, especially if this was also illegal/exploitative content.

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Sometimes, the weirdest threads go sideways…

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So much fro that AI nudity filter.

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They might do better working on their security issues more generally.

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And there should also be some reasonable expectation for Zoom’s ability to block repeat offenders at the IP level once the problem is brought to their attention. Password-protected admission isn’t practical or appropriate for every kind of online gathering.

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Blocking at the IP level really isn’t an adequate technical fix, but I agree with the point that Zoom, and not the users, should bear the primary responsibility for securing their product. The good news is they have hired a slew of top security talent recently, so hopefully they get issues like this hammered out. Pressure from a lawsuit is of course, a-ok as well.

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Way back in the day, porn sites were thought to be highly insecure because of viruses and stuff and they probably were at first. But the porn industry is nothing if not highly inventive and took quick measures to secure their sites. So it turned out that the easiest, most vulnerable sites to hack were…churches, mainly because most all their sites would be run by parishioners with very little grasp on how security works.

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He is not calling it fraud. He is saying it seems improbable. I don’t agree with him, but there is a vast difference there.

This isn’t a “hack” and isn’t necessarily indicative of a church run by people who don’t understand internet security. It’s a malicious person taking advantage of a group that hosts gatherings that are designed to be open to all.

If someone ran into a church basement to interrupt an AA meeting or a Bible Study group and started flinging poo at people then it would be dumb to say “the people hosting that meeting clearly don’t understand basic security, otherwise they wouldn’t have left the door unlocked.” The door was left open on PURPOSE.

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Dude, what did Ken just say, literally two posts before yours?

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Speechless

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Have you seen the Republicans in Congress? Or the President?

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Are you a republican in congress or the president? Because some rich entitled assholes act like that, we all do?

WTF?

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Apparently it is so hard to Not be a jerk, than even elected Republican leaders are, basically, all assholes who are acting that way even though they (hopefully?) know better.

No, that’s no excuse for them to act that way - but a large portion* of our country seems to a) be ok with their behavior, and b) often mimic their behavior.

Judging by evert “open America” protest, those leaders are setting quite an example.

*Hopefully not an ‘electoral college majority’ portion.

My point was that the person who did this was not a congress person or the president, and yet they felt the need to do something terrible to someone else, probably for the lulz. Plenty of people voted for teh current president, because they’d “stick it to” the people who don’t look like them. Because they see those of us who don’t look like them as subhuman. I’m a subhuman, being a woman and all.

I’m just sick of feeling like my humanity is irrelevant.

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There have to be at least as many zoom meetings as there are humans on earth right now. even if you’re spamming, why target this one? And with enough motivation to fucking track down and shuttle child porn. I would guess that this is someone known to the church.

The hell is with these sorts of comments?

What are you trying to say? That it’s ok for someone to zoombomb with potential child porn because they deserved it? That the perpetrator should use this as a defence? That Zoom’s security is “good enough” that the “common man” should know better so, meh, no need to do any more?

The person who is responsible for disrupting the meeting is the person who did the disrupting Full stop. The dude who walks into your front door and masturbates on your couch because you left the door open doesn’t get to argue that the door was open so the family should have known he’d be there masturbating when they got home.

I mean, holy shit with this stuff.

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