Birth control comes with a weight limit

More importantly, it is for a 13-year-old girl.

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True, Iā€™m not; but taller friends are the same weight. They look slimmer, but not skinny. A lot weightier than their mothers would have.
Here, look at this - this (from 1960s Dublin) is how normal kids look - this skinny, this bold, this mad, this funny, this full of spark and energy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq7QUpPr66w

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potato joke.

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but someone told me : Itā€™s Hip to be Square

Did you mean 74 kg? There is no way that 47 kg is correct unless you include children. I happen to know a grown woman who weighs exactly that, but she is a reasonably thin 5ā€™1".

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Youā€™re using logic, science, and critical thinking. ENTIRELY too straightforward for a political issue. . . (grin)

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Well, it just shows how fat people have got that those healthy children look malnourished.
Here are some normal Americans from the same era for comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFK6yzTIv54

Yes and no: the critical parameter on Acetominiphen is blood concentration. But even a normal dose of Acetominiphen is close to toxic. . . .

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Did you miss the backup singers?

Itā€™s Hip to be Square
(on any given intersecting plane)

Children look a lot thinner than adults. Adults trying to look like young children are not being realistic.

But seriously, youā€™ve made a lot of comments here that suggest you donā€™t have realistic expectations of weight and you think people of normal healthy weights are fat. Statistically speaking (and obviously this canā€™t be used to speak of any particular individual) people who are considerably heavier than we we currently call ā€œnormalā€ are healthier people (as in they get sick less and they live longer).

Now a 5ā€™6" woman who weights 166 lbs may be very unhealthy for a number of reasons, and may have much more fat and much less muscle than is healthy, who knows, individuals may vary. But suggesting that healthy such a weight means itā€™s time to ā€œput down the ham sandwichā€ shows a damaging bias towards less-healthy weights.

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You could be right. But look at this study from the International Journal of Obesity Browse Articles | International Journal of Obesity (on Natureā€™s site):

Abstract
Background: The prevalence of obesity has increased dramatically in recent years. As exposure to obesity increases, perceptions of what is a ā€˜normalā€™ weight are likely to change and this may result in overweight and obese people being perceived as healthier weights than they actually are. We tested whether exposure to obesity results in individuals being more likely to perceive an overweight person as being of healthy weight and whether this would impact upon evaluations of whether an overweight person should consider losing weight.
Methods: Across three experiments with over 350 participants, we examined the effect that exposing participants to photographs of either obese or healthy weight young males had on visual judgements of whether an overweight young male was of healthy weight. We also tested whether exposure influenced participantsā€™ perceptions of what a ā€˜normalā€™ weight is, as we predicted that this might mediate the effect that obesity exposure has on weight perceptions.
Results: In all studies, exposure to obesity resulted in an overweight male being perceived to be of healthier weight. There was also evidence that this effect was explained by changes to perceptions of what is a ā€˜normalā€™ weight (Experiment 2). Obesity exposure also resulted in participants being more likely to believe that an overweight person did not need to consider losing weight (Experiment 3).
Conclusions: These findings provide causal evidence that perceptions of weight and health status are strongly influenced by the body weight of the people we see around us.

An looking for a normal weight - just googling - for a woman of 1 metre 6 (equivalent to 5ā€™5" imperial), I find:

According to your height of 1.60 meters your ideal healthy weight is 57.2 kilograms. Your recommended weight range is between 50.8 and 64.0 kilograms.

http://www.evi.com/q/ideal_weight_for_1.6_metres

Normal weight for someone who is 1.6 metres tall is between 47.4kg and 64.0kg.

(This doesnā€™t give a range, but has a scale for weight, in which 63kg is the top of the ā€˜normalā€™ weight level - the scale hits ā€˜overweightā€™ above that, and ā€˜obeseā€™ at 76.8kg.

No, he really thought 47kg (see the link that he posted) and seems to think the problem with the number is the fact that it was referring to someone with ancestry from multiple countries. The link, however, refers specifically to the average weight of 13-year-old girls and not adult women.

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Your first link is fair enough, and the article is worth discussing; but a you need to put a little more care into your research if you want people to take your arguments seriously (see the comment directly above!).

The Health Status link is broken, the third link sends me to some random ā€œfact calculatorā€ which is also happy to tell me ā€œUsual weight for someone who is 18 metres tall is between 5994.0kg and 8100.0kg.ā€ The final BBC link directs to a BMI calculator which correspondently makes a lot of questionable assumptions. As discussed on BoingBoing previously, BMI is a pretty flawed method of determining healthy weight.

Nope, lots and lots of variety in oral contraception. Various different ratios of hormones, different amounts of hormones, etc.

When I say, ā€œthe morning after pill,ā€ this doesnā€™t encompass all oral contraception. Iā€™m well aware that there are different types of daily oral birth control, but thatā€™s not what I was talking about.

Thatā€™s odd; the links I quoted are ones Iā€™d just looked at - they werenā€™t broken for me.
Hereā€™s a New York Times story from 2005, when the obesity problem first started ringing alarm bells:

Childrenā€™s Life Expectancy Being Cut Short by Obesity

By PAM BELLUCK

Published: March 17, 2005

BOSTON, March 16 - For the first time in two centuries, the current generation of children in America may have shorter life expectancies than their parents, according to a new report, which contends that the rapid rise in childhood obesity, if left unchecked, could shorten life spans by as much as five years.

The report, to be published Thursday in The New England Journal of Medicineā€¦

Youā€™re quite right! I looked at the headline, which said:

Average Height For A Woman In Ireland

and didnā€™t read down to the paragraph below when it said it was a 13-year-old, averaged out from several countries.

The world health organization collects this sort of data

Mean BMI (2015 estimate; ages 30-100)

US Males: 31.0
US Females: 31.9

Irish data is there, Iā€™ll leave it as an exercise for the reader.

Btw, I found this data store by following the references of a paper with a somewhat disturbing subtext

Most recent year is 2007 - a very different profile (one Irish person has emigrated every six minutes in the last year, for instance, whereas in 2007 people were immigrating into Ireland; 2007 was the height of the Celtic Tiger, with not just full employment (normally reckoned as only 3% unemployed) but more than full (our unemployment then was 2% in 2007), with enormous social mobility then, with a radical change in diet to a more Mediterranean model, but with women drinking too much wine), In 2013, we have this haemorrhaging emigration, giant unemployment, enormous social injustice, a radical tearing-apart of classes (wealthy people at one end, very poor at the other, a yawning gap between, virtually no sense of solidarity). A very different Ireland.
But more of a problem; the figures talk about obesity, but I canā€™t see any actual weights quoted.

Unless one has massive or tiny sinuses I donā€™t think a dosage would effect cold ā€˜medicineā€™ that much :slight_smile: