#1 By: Xeni Jardin, October 1st, 2013 10:07
#2 By: gilbert wham, October 1st, 2013 10:41
Ooo, I liked that. This shutdown thing is fucking mental. Has anyone pointed out to the daft bastards that they're basically taking industrial action, like some filthy communist trade union?
#3 By: Tim Warris, October 1st, 2013 10:45
You idiots. It is happening in another country. Believe it or not, the internet isn't a US entity...
#4 By: Daniel Nebdal, October 1st, 2013 10:56
The heading is a short form of "how the US media would report on it if it happened in a country that was not the same one that they are in (that is, the US)".
#5 By: Boundegar, October 1st, 2013 11:01
However, Slate is an American website, and I suppose they have the right to look at things from an American perspective.
Wait, is Xeni the idiot? Or Joshua Keating? Or just the whole damn internet?
#6 By: gilbert wham, October 1st, 2013 11:04
Well, you could argue a case for the overweening majority of the internet. I mean, you've seen it, right?
#7 By: Boundegar, October 1st, 2013 11:07
Yes but then we're faced with the conundrum of:
- The internet is made of idiots
- All Americans are idiots
- The internet is not 100% American.
I see no way to resolve this paradox. It could imply there are idiots in other countries as well, but I think that violates the spirit of the premise.
Oh, and regarding the OP, if the current crisis was in a non-USA country, the US media wouldn't be required to say, "both sides do it equally." They could just come right out and call the crazies crazy.
#8 By: Nathan Hornby, October 1st, 2013 11:10
Although a particularly cranky comment, the sentiment can be shared with many a non-US internet user.
Slate is an American owned website. But I don't see anywhere that states it's by Americans, for Americans.
The issue is that someone like myself, and perhaps @GilbertWham, would preface a statement with context. For example, "Over here in the UK, the law says X about Y". Whereas often an American may word the same statement as "The law says X!" - this can lead to both confusion and frustration for those of us that remember the world is a big and varied place.
I'm merely attempting to explain the outlook though - I can't say I picked up on the lack of context on this occasion. It's something I find far more annoying on sites like Reddit, where statements like, "It depends what state you live in" are very commonplace, (pssst, I don't live in any state!).
Maybe it's confirmation bias, but my tl;dr: would be that Americans are bad at remembering that they're not alone on the planet. Although I could argue both sides of that debate on my own, which is a good indication that it's a debate best left for never.
#9 By: Nathan Hornby, October 1st, 2013 11:11
The internet is an idiot.
#10 By: gilbert wham, October 1st, 2013 11:12
My life's in a terrible state.
#11 By: Daniel Nebdal, October 1st, 2013 11:13
Also, and just to break with the ongoing discussion: I liked the article, and found the style spot on for what they were trying for.
#12 By: Nathan Hornby, October 1st, 2013 11:14
I hope that's dry humour and not a cry for help.
#13 By: Stirner Maximus, October 1st, 2013 11:16
Really? I found it lame and passive-aggressive, with all the subtlety and nuance of an angry teenager denied her allowance.
#14 By: Nathan Hornby, October 1st, 2013 11:18
When discussing politics and especially the US congress surely that's an apt tone?
#15 By: Boundegar, October 1st, 2013 11:21
I agree wholeheartedly. US internet users should be forbidden from engaging in US-centric discourse. If they can't see every issue from the perspective of truly international universalism, the internet should kick them out, with the possible exception of limited access to remedial world history classes. We really tend to suck at world history.
However, the previous statement only applies to Americans. I am therefore banning myself.
#16 By: Nathan Hornby, October 1st, 2013 11:33
I think someone said something, but I can't hear it over all that sarcasm.
#17 By: gilbert wham, October 1st, 2013 11:35
Arid. I've got a fucking cold makes you feel like you've been kicked in the nads, like. So it's not all fucking rainbows...
#18 By: Aaron Wallace, October 1st, 2013 11:36
Hehe, this comment thread got so damn meta so damn fast. Perhaps a little background, Slate is mostly produced inside the 'beltway bubble' or 'this town,' Slate often tries to highlight the crazy groupthink of the beltway press. This article pretty much nailed the tone of American Newspapers (remember those things) discussing world affairs. Slate is owned by the Washington Post so occasionally it tries to sound like that. Anywho carry on!
#19 By: gilbert wham, October 1st, 2013 11:38
#20 By: phuzz, October 1st, 2013 11:39
For a brit, that's pretty much how we do see the situation.
Seriously, your whole flipping government has shut down? Really? What the actual fuck?
So when does it get back to work?
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