When I saw the documentary a few years agoā¦ I admit it was a bit eerie.
Why not investigate all the way?
Many questions about this by some legit playersā¦ Former Chief of Police? Forensics experts? All have legit questions - thereās motive etcā¦
why is this a ātiredā old conspiracy?
Probably because thereās a ton of āinconsistenciesā and āwhat ifāsā but absolutely no concrete evidence that could be used to actually point a finger. Everything is speculation. Some of itās well informed speculation, but thatās about as far as it goes.
I agree the whole thing has always looked suspicious, but after 20 years of Grant spinning his tires and not getting any traction itās not hard to wonder if heās forcing this thing just to keep his name in the spotlight.
Oh conspiraciesā¦ such a great way to make money on lame films.
I believe there was a complete and thorough police investigation that came up with a conclusive, evidence based cause of death. All these āwhat-ifā and āunansweredā questions were in fact answered by the complete lack of evidence.
No one can actually accomplish a real criminal conspiracy, people are basically incompetent with keeping secrets, and self preservation would shatter any conspiracy should the slightest piece of evidence implicate someone, they would turn in a millisecond.
Conspiracies make great books and films, just keep them in the fiction section and not in documentary.
āKurt & Courtneyā was infuriating because in between that pretentious twit piddling on about his conspiracy nonsense, there were some amazing interviews and history about Courtney Love.
The funniest thing about the first documentary is that anyone would trust El Duce to pull off a hit. I wouldnāt have trusted the guy to return my movies to Redbox. He was a funny guy, but a huge alchoholic & junkie.
The conspiracy wasnāt a hit. His death was faked. Heās with Morrison now, in France. Wake up, sheeple!
conspiracies - an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act.
This happens all the timeā¦ centuries of proof and evidence reveal countless conspiracies have been pulled off successfully, over and over again. People collude and get away with it.
The problem is that the word āconspiracyā has been cleverly and completely associated with crackpot theories and tinfoil-mad-hattersā¦ forever trashing a simple, accurate definition - to conspire against.
and was later run over by a trainā¦ apparently.
If you ever met El Duce or saw The Mentors live, him going to the liquor store in the middle of the day and then getting hit by a train would not be a surprise.
El Duceās bit was my favorite part in that movie!
Donāt forget his great talk show appearances!
I love a good conspiracy theory. But like most, they really are more complicated and hard to believe than the simple facts.
It really just isnāt that hard to believe that Cobain killed himself.
Letās review:
- He had a history of risky behavior, including drug overdoses
- The week before his death, he locked himself in the bathroom with his guns, causing Courtney Love to call the Police.
- For Godās sake, one of the last songs he released before his death was āI Hate Myself and Want to Die.ā
Iām sure there are some anomalies, they always are. I could see, for instance, Cobain overdosing after partying with people, and the people then faking the suicide so they arenāt implicated. But, there just is no reason for the murder.
The book āLove and Deathā sure did a great job making me consider it a very valid possibility that it wasnāt suicide and that Courtney Love may have been involved.
He certainly seems to be clinging to a lost cause, but it seems just as plausible that he really believes it and is doggedly pursuing justice.
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The problem is that the word āconspiracyā has been cleverly and completely associated with crackpot theories and tinfoil-mad-hattersā¦ forever trashing a simple, accurate definition - to conspire against.
[/quote]uhā¦ I think youāre conflating conspiracy with conspiracy theory.
None of that changes that there are enough questions surrounding the circumstances of his death to justify closer inspection. Just because thereās a simple explanation doesnāt mean itās automatically the truth.
The police did a pretty good job butchering the evidence to the point that a thorough investigation was not only impossible in 1994, but here in 2014. Not that Iām siding with Tom Grant either, heās always had that air of ācrackpotā around him. Iām just saying a closer look was justified.
Iāve never found anything particularly suspicious about a depressed man taking his own life. Iāve always suspected that people wanted there to be more to the story simply because Courtney Love is a rather, shall we say, unsympathetic character.
She was great in The People vs. Larry Flynt, though.
