maggiekb at February 19th, 2014 11:50 — #1
waetherman at February 19th, 2014 12:15 — #2
I heard this story recently on NPR and it's a pretty fascinating tale. As for characterizing it as "the most expensive intelligence operation ever and it only kind of worked." I would actually say "it was the most expensive intelligence operation we know about, and it actually kind of worked - maybe more than we know!"
snowmentality at February 19th, 2014 12:17 — #3
And Charlie Stross tells the rest of the story in The Jennifer Morgue. (Supernatural spy novel. Highly recommend it.)
hhype at February 19th, 2014 12:54 — #4
Thanks for the obligatory Stross reference. Back in June the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia had a History of Spying exhibit with artifacts from the real Hughes Glomar Explorer.
wrecksdart at February 19th, 2014 14:34 — #5
Any chance Project Azorian is related to Gozer the Gozarian? Because that would be kinda cool...
jandrese at February 19th, 2014 14:41 — #6
Cold war thinking may have been crazy, but it did show a remarkable amount of ambition and follow through. From what I can tell, the Soviets never really had a clue what this was all about, which is amazing when you consider how many people (at a public company!) were involved and how big the project was in general. It's not like there was a lack of spies on either side.
Of course the extreme paranoia that kept the Soviets in the dark also kind of doomed the project. First when they were scared off before finishing the site survey by a curious Soviet vessel (and who wouldn't be curious, the Glomar Explorer is a freaking cool ship), and then again when they rushed the actual retrieval operation for the same reason.
maggiekb at February 19th, 2014 15:25 — #7
In the Radiolab story, the idea was floated through the Soviet hierarchy but dismissed because, come on, that would be nuts. Which just makes it all the better.
scalveg at February 19th, 2014 16:04 — #8
One other interesting thing not mentioned in the article is that the ship is still in operation, privately owned, doing work as a drillship, which was basically its cover in the operation!
thaumatechnicia at February 19th, 2014 17:22 — #9
The Most Expensive Intelligence Operation Ever ® will soon be the Utah Data Center.
And it will have stopped, er, zero terrorist attacks.
jpgsawyer at February 19th, 2014 17:23 — #10
This is a real thing... I thought it was part of Charlie's diseased imagination....... Wow!
jandrese at February 19th, 2014 17:39 — #11
To be fair, Project Azorian stopped zero terrorist attacks as well.
kenmce at February 19th, 2014 18:36 — #12
Only kind of worked?
We don't really know what they brought up. It may have given them any number of samples of state of the art Soviet military technology. That it worked at all makes it worthwhile.
some_guy at February 19th, 2014 23:29 — #13
Apparently a couple of Soviet officers saw the news reports about the Glomar Explorer, and where it was going to be "mining", and immediately figured it out, but couldn't convince their superiors, who naturally thought the idea was too complicated/insane to even try-- "the Americans are not that crazy!"
Reminds of that line you always hear in Hollywood caper movies, where someone says "this is so crazy it just might work!"
israel_b at February 20th, 2014 02:51 — #14
You know of Operation Ivy Bells?
richard_kirk at February 20th, 2014 07:46 — #15
The cover story was particularly good. There were manganese nodules on the deep sea bed. If you hoovered these up then you got a whole bunch of other materials with them. This would mean that some metals such as Zirconium would tumble in price. When I was at college, people had done their doctorate in metallurgy on zirconium steels, anticipating that a small addition of zirconium might be worthwhile at the new price…
eerd at February 20th, 2014 08:52 — #16
Manganese nodule mining is sort of getting going again - and with both the Russians and Lockheed involved in international waters.
hhype at February 20th, 2014 09:11 — #17
I am sure it is actually just mining...
dave_barak at February 22nd, 2014 11:58 — #18
My dad used to have a small sailboat that he kept in a marina not far from the ship. We used to pass it going out and coming back in. The teen shutterbug in me got a few shots of it. It was moored right near the twin drawbridges in LA (seen in a lot of movies, and location of Tony Scott's swansong swan dive). The hangar that used to house the Spruce Goose was there too, even with a little control tower attached. At the time we had no clue what was in it.
maggiekb at February 24th, 2014 11:50 — #19
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