$400bn utopian city to be imagined being built somewhere in America

There should be some kind of loophole for “we took the water out, then peed in it and pooped in it and cleaned it and put it back in 100 meters downstream”.

But, yes, water rights are a ■■■■■ b*tch.

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Any time a zillionaire suggests a remote, high tech Surveillance City that even passingly resembles the Libertarian hell hole that Rapture turned into you should nod politely, turn around and walk away.

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That’s where the “Captains of industry/clean toilets” quote comes from, right?

Never played the game, but I am vaguely familiar with the lore.

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Ahh yes, that would be one of Frank Fontaine’s little epithets. Wasn’t sure so i looked it up. He’s another of the many monsters that Andrew Ryan’s Libertarian “paradise” created.

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Yeah build by trump no less… emphasis on the less.

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That looks AMAZING…were it not for the fact I’m not really a gamer.

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The gameplay is rather dated and janky now i suppose but you could always watch a non-commentary playthrough to see why there was such a big fuss about it at the time and still being brought in to conversations like these! It’s certainly stuck around in the cultural memory if cosplay is any indication.

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Indonesia moving the capital from Jakarta, although I think it’s more as a big new development to an existing city on Borneo, than a completely new city.

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Build a new city in the desert? It’s total nonsense.

Why not just buy Detroit and redevelop it in stages? Better yet, Cleveland… no-one is doing anything with that place right now and it has some really great waterside property potential!

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Anyone remember Paolo Soleri’s Arcologies? A high-school friend had a huge blueprint book of his designs in the 80s. and I remember getting my mind blown as I poured over the massive pages of plans for city-scale buildings. He started a sustainable city, Arcosanti, in the 70s in Arizona, and his foundation has continued to develop it to this day. I remember it sounding like a bit of a shitshow years ago, but it’s still around, so who knows.

What Is Arcology? | Ideology of Paolo Soleri | Arcosanti.

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Kind of reminds me of an old Sam Kinisom bit.

"See this, this is sand. Nothing grows in sand. WHY DON’T YOU LIVE WHERE THE F–KING FOOD IS!!!

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Never mind all the people currently living there.

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Detroit is redeveloping itself, thank you very much.

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Because people live there, that’s why?

But they’re not rich people, who obviously know better… /s

Yep.

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I had hoped the ridiculousness of my suggestions were enough to imply that I wasn’t serious - just how I hope this idea of building a new city in the desert isn’t serious.

A couple years back I was looking at jobs in Detroit because the place is looking very exciting at the moment.

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Dude… we live in a post-Trump world, where even the most ridiculous assertions are being seriously touted by some asshat, somewhere.

Sadly, as a result, sarcasm often has to be clarified now…

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Especially online, where text communication dominates. I really wish people would stop expecting the rest of us to instinctively KNOW that they are being sarcastic even if we’ve rarely interacted with them, and then acting like we’re dumb if we don’t get it… JFC.

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I got a wild idea for the billionaires out there how about you fund the government instead? Wild idea I know but imagine this, it helps you get competent workers who can afford childcare and able to use mass transit that won’t make them late for work. Funny idea huh?

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