A journalist finally uncovers the root of Trump supporters' anger

Up until the debates, where Hillary held up against his bullying and magnified it whereas he’d just do his usual “whip his flacid dick out and mushroom-stamp the other participants” shtick while the moderators stared.

Hillary is a better strategic candidate, Bernie is an awesome candidate but would have held up poorly against a pathological liar-clown. Those “electability” polls you quote are not static, the media encourage him to bully unchecked.

2 Likes

You’re talking about Trump, right?

I can’t say how Bernie would have fared against Trump, except that Trump’s undoing and implosion in the debates has been his own fault. If only he would stay undone…

1 Like

I know it’s a moot point, but based on what?

Yes, there’d be Commie Bernie attacks, but I’m not aware that a significant percentage of the country literally thinks he’s a demon. And he hasn’t had 20+ years of being the pinup figure for conservative hate.

A lot of the criticism and hatred of Clinton is based on nothing, but it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

3 Likes

A significant portion of “undecideds” and Republicans saw him as a communist in a way that most of them do not see Hillary.

1 Like

They would attack him for being Jewish and/or atheist, and make disingenuous claims that he’s a communist, Marxist, Stalinist, etc. Still, polling indicates that he would have been more electable than Hillary.

3 Likes

“International Banker” blood libel has already been spoken by Trump.

2 Likes

I wonder how much of that would be cancelled out by him being “not Hillary” (and also “not a Democrat”)?

Ah well, what might have been, anyway.

I suspect that the country being as divided as it is, it’d come down to 51:49 whoever the candidates ended up being.

God I hope not. Trump supporters are batshit insane. They better not be half the country.

Close enough. Any Republican (or Democrat) candidate is going to get between 40-50% no matter how awful they are.

This chart seems to suggest that Trump’s improvement of late comes from hoovering up Johnson support. I guess that was to be expected.

Neutral to the former, because he’s leftist, and worse to the latter, because socialists are vastly hated. I long for a time when Trumps aren’t coddled and endorsed by the media and when a candidate like Sanders would be given equal respect.

Now is not that time.

Goddamn. People wanted to vote for Johnson this election and he totally shat the bed. Last election, he was on point but nobody cared :confused:

Was he really better last time? Or does he, like Stein, look worse under close examination?

4 Likes

Especially in the US, “half of the vote” is very different from “half of the country”.

OTOH, that’s a major problem in itself.

5 Likes

Even more so where you’re from, I’d imagine?

Eh? Near 100% turnout here; half of the vote here is half of the adult population.

5 Likes

Sorry, I thought you were making a rural/urban population point.

If. Only.

2 Likes

Beats taking them at face value, taking them seriously, or treating them as earnest partners in conversation (nevermind policy negotiations).

These are the “blame you first” crowd. They’re too ingrained in their ignorance to change now, and they lack the wisdom to sit down and let cooler heads prevail.

That leaves the choice to ignore them, or mock them. I choose mock them.

4 Likes

Do you see what you did there? They have no problem calling a spade a spade. As in, the black man who is president.

5 Likes

You rather didn’t. Perhaps you could expand you analysis so that your passing references are fleshed out into more cogently made actual full points. Like, two sentences each, not three things you point at in one sentence and expect us to know why you think they;re connected. Because you didn’t explain that part, not really.

Same as X isn’t a citation. Same as X because A B and C as shown in D and E… is.

1 Like