A man told police his 11-year-old daughter was being manipulated to send a man photos of her. Columbus cops threatened the victim with jail for "making porn"

I can tell you exactly what this is: a bad cop who was annoyed at having to take that call.

Cops don’t know the letter of the law. They know some common offenses they can issue citations or arrest people for. And they often get it wrong, which is why you take traffic tickets to court and a lot of arrests never lead to charges. Anything more complex or nuanced, someone higher up issues a warrant for the cops to handle.

Don’t talk to the cops, especially like this where you call 911 or the non-emergency line and your average patrol officer comes out. They won’t know what to do. In a sensitive situation like this where a kid is involved and the crime has already happened, you want to be dealing with nobody lower rank than a detective in the unit that handles that.

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It IS true that she could be charged.

My beef is that the cop didn’t present this information in a helpful way, a warning that this has happened to other children and that she shouldn’t put herself at risk.

It came across as more of a threat: we COULD arrest her.

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Nah… this not just a bad apple here… And the father did the right thing in calling the cops. She’s 11, who would argue that she’s the one who is breaking the law…

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There is a legal term for this crime: online solicitation of a minor. that is the crime the asshole cop should have been focused on. Getting any information possible about the sexual predator. Arranging for the child victim to be interviewed by a trained therapist at a CASA.
Yes, it is technically true a child could be charged with creating child sex abuse imagery. It has been done, even though it shouldn’t. But that is a conversation for the CASA therapist to have with the parents and child later.

It is not a threat to be made against the parent of a child victim. But she’s a girl. So of course this is all her fault /s

Edited to add the /s.

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OK, what is your answer? You can’t go to the cops, they will arrest you. (Or, in this case, your child.) You can’t track down the offender on your own, or at least most of us can’t. And if we could, are we ready for vigilante justice? Are we really going to blame the child when an adult manipulates them into an act like this? Isolating the victim is aiding the offender. What is the option?

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PSA for any parents of minor children: if this happens to your child go straight to the FBI child explotation task force or a similar state level institution. Or call the local CASA (or child advocacy center) and see if they can provide some advice. The CASA will know if any local cops can be trusted.
Also cut off your child’s access to the account being used. Heavily monitor the child’s social media and Internet use. Keep a very close eye on them, this is a vulnerable time for the predator to come and take them or convince them to runway.
Get them a good therapist. Make sure they know you love them and they are not to blame. Give them sincere and real gratitude if you found out because they told you.

Edited to fix auto incorrect. Also, if a child shares something with you that makes them vulnerable, like their latest crush or deep emotions do not for the love of all that is holy tease them or shame them
Thank them for sharing with you. Establish that trust and then do whatever you must to yourself, including therapy for your own issues, to keep that trust.
This is what a parent can do to keep their child safe. Earn their trust and then keep earning it

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Another resource: the area children’s advocacy center
https://www.nationalcac.org/find-a-cac/

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Thank you for the link! Around here the are often called CASA or combined with CASA. I’ll edit accordingly

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What the fuck is wrong with these people? Do these cops not have kids? If their kid was in the same situation, is that the stance they would take?

Also if the CP laws aren’t carved out to protect the victims, they should be. An 11 year old can’t consent to anything. They were manipulated. There should be instant protection when it involves minor and an adult.

Threatening A CHILD with breaking the law because they were the victim of manipulation? What the actual fuck?

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I can understand why the dad would call the cops, but street cops in uniform that usually spend their day writing speeding tickets are out of their league with these situations. We can’t expect a lot of good advice from a barber when we have a toothache.

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the one sentence at the start of the op gives me pause:

Man: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the whole point, I just wanted you guys to come over and talk to her

and the ap article says

The man says he wanted someone to talk to her to get her “to realize what this was” and then suggests “reality is” there isn’t much he can do.

the cop should have told the father, no - this should be investigated, and here’s the resources you need. all the things @Kii said - but the cop appears to be almost colluding ( strong word ) with the father saying, “i can help scare her into stopping.”

it’s a really f’d up situation. the father was probably out of his depth here, which is understandable but his framing is so weird.

eta: @ClutchLinkey put it better than i did

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I can’t. Really. Not to, in his own words, talk to the kid. On my list of people I’d turn to to talk some sense into a kid in that situation, cops would be pretty much at the bottom.
I’m glad he came to his senses and sent them away. ACAB.

As is the fact that the cops came out to talk to a kid, but clearly showed up after bedtime, which…?

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I guess Ohio is serious about claims of child exploitation and is seeking to eliminate them - the claims, that is.

Charitably, the cop misunderstood why he was there, and thought the father brought him in to “scare straight” his daughter out of being groomed. And, charitably, that’s an incredibly fucked-up assumption by the cop. It’s quite the demonstration as to why any interaction with the police is fraught with danger.

Although everything I read about the detectives whose job it is to investigate abuse and SA cases, they’re almost universally the last people you’d want to deal with in that situation. The combination of ignorance and prejudice is incredible.

Odds are good the cops are abusers themselves, so…

Cops show up when they want to show up. I remember my parents talking about the one time they called the cops to report a crime - a burglary (back in the day when cops actually came to take reports for burglary). The cops showed up a day or two later, waking them up at 1 am, treating them like they were the suspects…

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Not only that, but the cop giving the terrible, harmful advice is a woman. AND THEN HER RESPONSE TO THE FATHER AT THE END IS…

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Man, that burns my biscuits.

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Unfortunately internalized misogyny is real and very common. Some of the worst oppressors of girls in particular are grown women. It’s awful

I probably need an /s on

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You don’t need a /s on that. In a patriarchy, men are never responsible for their own thoughts and actions, only women are responsible. :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

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Yeah, it’s all on that tempting little 11 yo girl to not flaunt her wares for the online men drawn to it. (Oh God /s and a hot, hot shower please!!)

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I don’t think there is a helpful way to present this information.

If it is a situation where the images were not solicited or it involved another minor, then maybe I can see there being a potential for charges. But that’s not why the dad called police - he was concerned that someone was manipulating his 11 year old daughter. So instead of the police saying “okay, what makes you think this is happening” and trying to get a lead on who the predator might be, they target the victim.

The possibility of charges for her daughter shouldn’t have even been brought up at this stage.

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I think it’s possible to both constructively warn of real legal peril AND to properly investigate the real criminal here.

This cop did neither.

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