There’s a good essay called “Grandpa Wasn’t a Nazi” that for some reason my browser says is a security risk to download, so I won’t link it here. But it’s house at a .edu domain and I downloaded it without apparent harm. In any event, it examines this phenomenon of the children and grandchildren of Nazis trying to, or avoiding, coming to grips with this issue. It’s a . . . weird read. But probably akin to talking to some of the children and grandchildren of the white people who opposed the Civil Rights movement.
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Yeah I knew I heard of this district before, and it was because this story has come out every year as more students film themselves using the n-word:
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We need one in each state
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The fascists do get creative. I recall one white supremacist user who was allowed to linger on this BBS far too long making the astonishing claim that Sudeten Germans in the inter-war period were just as much victims of genocide as the Jews of Europe.
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It is notable that it has always been illegal to teach the truth about the history of the Alamo to students in Texas, even in college. It was an eye opener to find out what really happened and who the historic figures that Texas worships actually were. To this day you cannot legally teach the factual history of the Alamo to students in a Texas classroom.
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People are focusing on the person saying this, but the fact is, she’s just articulating what the new law in Texas requires. She’s not for it, she’s just explaining it (and sympathizing with educators about it, actually). It’s a fascist law (and Texas legislators), not a fascist administrator.
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Ha, funny you should say that… I’m the creator of this line of t-shirts and that is the root of why I basically stopped making new designs for this lineup. When brainstorming new designs for more recent controversies I would think of some absurd over the top image to represent an idea, only to find it didn’t come close to the pure crazy garbage they were producing themselves in earnest.
These nonsense people are impossible to parody, it’s poe’s law in overdrive.
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Yeah! And what’s with all this Base 10 and Gregorian calendar crap? PS I am not a crank.
But seriously, can we just get some more of these people on record:
- You agree the Holocaust happened as a historical fact, yes or no.
- Do you agree there is also a moral lesson that will be learned by learning about the historical facts of the Holocaust, yes or no.
- Do you agree we should teach the Holocaust in schools so kids can learn both the historical facts and the moral lesson of the Holocaust?
And then - guess what - this becomes a super simple test for any other subject you may or may not introduce in schools.
Just replace “the Holocaust” with “the poll tax”, “apartheid”, “lynching”, “slavery”, “AIDS persecution” (and since we’re “both-sidesin” it, “the gulag”, “the Great Revolution”, “the Berlin Wall” …) and you answer the same 3 questions.
People who answer no to #1 or #2 should be named and shamed, full stop. People who answer to no #3, make your case.
As the law stands, we don’t even have this disclosure: everyone who would answer no to #1 or #2 get to hide behind #3, which just says “you can’t teach X.”
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The problem with that is that Satanism didn’t really exist until the 19th century. Until then it was just an accusation thrown at people who didn’t follow the right religion zealously enough.
There are plenty of Christian heresies though, as well as the many accepted churches.
And this is why we have three popes today (four, if you include Pope Benedict)
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I’d like to revisit Nestorianism.
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They still exist
ETA:
Let’s bring back the Taborites
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This should be tested using good scientific method, by throwing the administrator off a roof of a tall building.
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Yeah, ‘cos they’re Reich, and everyone else is wrong.
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I loved that scene, especially the part after the nazi is defenestrated, where everyone is looking at him and he goes “no ticket.”
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Well, welcome to BBS, comrade and keep up the good work. Good luck keeping ahead of the crazies, though. I’ve been failing at it my whole life!
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How to teach The Alamo, though . . . ?
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I’ve read a couple of books about the radicalism of the counterculture in Germany after the war (RAF, etc), and lots of it was driven by that phenomenon.
This book deals with some of that, specifically in various free love communes that cropped up in the 60s in places like West Berlin…
Agreed.
True!
It’s funny how often the history of Christanity is taught in such a linear fashion up to the reformation, but there are so many schisms from the earliest church.
Am I missing the Ethiopian Church and Armenian church on that chart? That’s under Oriental Orthodox, right?
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And the rest of us are very up front about their parents / grandparents being racist scumbags. The really bad part, of course, is that sometimes those parents (such as my mother) are still fighting the Civil Rights movement.
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this is more explicitly atheist
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