Trump completely set Rudy up here. Other attorneys weren’t giving him the advice he wanted - he found a drunk guy who would - boom - I was relying upon the advice of counsel!
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But there’s still a majority of the Republican base who feel like there was fraud in the 2020 election, and they don’t feel like it was completely vetted properly and investigated. And that’s why a lot of these people are still upset today.
Quit assuming these twits are arguing in good faith!!!
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Doesn’t even really matter if they’re arguing in good faith or not.
“I genuinely believed the bank owed me money” isn’t a legal defense against armed robbery. “I genuinely believed we were the master race and those people were subhuman” isn’t a defense against human rights atrocities. “I genuinely believed there was some kind of election fraud” isn’t a defense for trying to overthrow democracy.
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Oh yeah, I absolutely agree with that.
This is the media treating them as if they’re arguing in good faith though. They are not upset because of fraud. They are upset because they lost.
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I believe some number of those rubes really are brainwashed enough to believe the conspiracy garbage that they’re saying. I also don’t care. Anyone who willingly blinds themselves to any information that contradicts their fascist cult leader doesn’t deserve our compassion or respect.
ETA: probably the best approach would be if the media stopped trying to ascertain what MAGA folks actually believe and instead focus on their words and actions. So instead of saying “a large number of Republicans still feel that…” they could say “a large number of Republicans still falsely insist that…”
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… they feel like whatever Fox tells them to feel like
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I regret that I have but one life to give to … wait, hang on…
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Snooty asshole schools meathead in a way that should absolutely panic Trump’s base
The two then had some back and forth about which candidate seemed healthier, with Maher acknowledging Trump “looks and sounds a lot more hearty and robust. He’s a city roach. The worse things he eats the stronger he gets. You cannot kill him.”
“He’s also the only [president] who didn’t noticeably age,” Rogan pointed out.
“No, we did,” Maher countered, drawing laughter from Rogan. “But he’s a criminal and he’s crazy and he’s stupid. And crazy and stupid are two different things … Stupid is ‘Frederick Douglass is alive’ or ‘the stealth bomber is literally invisible.’ Crazy is ‘it’s important that the crowd at my inauguration was the biggest ever, and I’m going to make an issue of this for the first two weeks of my presidency despite photographic evidence of the contrary.’ Or ‘I’m going to steal these documents, and I’m going put them next to the toilet at Mar-A-Lago, and I’m going to fight you to take them back.’ Or ‘I’m not conceding the election.’ Those are crazy … he’s also a criminal.”
At this point, they begin discussing Trump’s 91 criminal charges, including some that Rogan seemed unaware of — such as Trump being accused of secretly organizing a fake slate of electors in seven battleground states to falsely sign certificates saying he won the election (while simultaneously accusing Biden of stealing the election instead).
“He tried every possible way of stealing this election,” Maher pressed. “He tried to do it through the courts. He tried to do it through the legislators. He tried to do it through intimidating Mike Pence. He tried to do it through the Justice Department. They talked about seizing voting machines! They talked about using the Army! You can’t really believe this guy is not worse than Joe Biden. I agree — Joe Biden is not a great president. And the Hunter Biden stuff is a stinky scandal that stinks to the high heaven. But if you think that it compares to what Trump tried to do, then you just cannot tell unlike things apart.”
“Do you think he really believes they stole the election?” Rogan wondered. “Or do you think he’s bullshitting?”
“Who gives a fuck? It doesn’t matter … all the people around him told him he lost. And one of his quotes they have on record was, ‘I don’t want people to know I lost this election.'”
“That’s kinda crazy,” Rogan admitted.
“He’s a clinical case of malignant narcissism,” Maher added. “It’s not a quirk. It’s actually in the big book of crazy. It affects everything he thinks and does. It’s why [authoritarian leaders] were able to curry favor from him — they kiss his ass and got whatever they wanted. I think [Russian President Vladimir] Putin had him as soon as he said, ‘I think Trump is a brilliant man.’ [Trump’s] a dangerous guy. Again, Biden is not my first choice — not my hundredth choice — but the other guy is a crazy stupid criminal.”
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Can I say how little I care for the opinion of either of those fuckwits.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith warned Tuesday that former President Donald Trump’s “daily” statements threaten to taint a jury pool in Washington in the criminal case charging him with scheming to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.
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