Antifa vs Anti-Fascist Nitpicking

Are they also anti-bac?

Am I using that word correctly?

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We gotta watch out for that Bacteria Bloc :microbe:

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The Bac Bloc would be more of a problem, only everyone there wears a mask.

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Blood Alcohol Count?

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My washroom only seems to be breeding Mensheviks.

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Yes. Which makes it even more puzzling. Words mean things. Anti-Fascist means against Fascism. You could simplify Antifa to mean the same thing if you want, but you’ll be trying for a long time. I mean as you say, history. Between 1933 to the past couple of years, Antifa was and is far more complex.

You think I’m personally trying to run you or others over with the meaning of the word. That’s not it. I carry on about it because it’s history, it’s interesting and shouldn’t be swept under the rug just to adopt a word.

So which one are you and I? Am I “The Peoples’ Front of Judea” or “The Judean Peoples’ Front”?

Nah. I think you’re trying to be a majorette and start a parade you can lead. And you feel upset and embarrassed strutting down the street by yourself.

Revel in it!

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You mean people keep bringing up all the historical baggage of Antifaschistische Aktion when you say Antifa, but forget about it and take the term at purely literal value when you say Anti-fascist? That sounds so very plausible.

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I think you’re trying to be a majorette and start a parade you can lead

I’m more led by history, I thought that was obvious.

You know you like those boots & baton.

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Historically speaking, arguments about the historic meanings of words have a history of falling flat. For reference, see the whole “Karen” debate.

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Thank you for permission.

We already have. And we’re doing a damn fine job with it too.

But I’ll let everyone know you gave us permission at the antifa clubhouse, on the antifa mailing list, and at the communist party meetings.

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You know - if we could just find the right phrase for abortion- the other side would give up.

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Antifa, in a certain historical context, meant a specific movement of Communists.
Libertarianism, in a certain historical context, meant a specific movement of socialist-anarchists.

I do historical linguistics for fun. Let me tell you about semantic drift: If words only had the meanings they had once, then it would be reasonable in English to say

A deer climbed a peach tree and ate an apple. It was unhappy, and so because the meat it ate was poisoned, it starved.

Because if you go back far enough, “deer” < dyr meant “an animal”, “apple” < æppel meant “a fruit”, “unhappy” < hap meant “unlucky”, “meat” < mēt meant “food”, and “starve” < steorfan meant “to die”.

Words do, in fact mean things. Words don’t always mean what they used to mean. That’s how language works. And history.

Notwithstanding the efforts of the likes of l’Académie française, language doesn’t work by fiat.

And you, sir, are no Académie française.

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Takes on Senator Lloyd Bentsen’s takedown of Dan Quayle will NEVER get old for me :smiley:

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Where’s the Lumpenproletariat on the Bristol Stool Scale?

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Sad Oh No GIF by Marvel Studios

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Okay:

Lastly:

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and notably they won’t even if you/we/everyone does bow down

they’ve already proven they’ll hurt people of color, pregnant people, trans people, gay people - married and otherwise - even in the rare instances where someone included in one ( or more ) of those groups does actually support them ( log cabin republicans have entered the chat )

cruelty is the point. and they’re happy being complete @#&holes to each other. it makes their day

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Obligs:

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