Apple, Google add 45 minutes to commuter-bus run to avoid 280 highway, where the buses' windows keep getting smashed

I wish this were the case but if you don’t step in line with what the majority of people expect then you’re going to get hammered on all fronts with respect to your mere existence. It’s a problem in American sectarianism where the “other” is to be rebuked at all costs. This sentiment is the thing that has to go if those cheaper places want to grow beyond their declining WASP pops. But they’ll keep blaming “teh gheys” as long as people are dumb enough to believe it.

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Hey there - just following up. I did read your comment re ‘taking additional cars off the road’ but my point, which I didn’t make clearly in my response, was that by adding another 45 minutes to the commute means that a lot of folks will decide to drive instead and will put cars back on the road. At a certain point, the lost 50-70 minutes flying down 280 (at an off-time) is worth not being on a bus for 2 hours (albeit productively) to get to work. I think lost in this thread (or maybe I didn’t see it) is that the buses are not disclosed spaces; even with screen protectors and keeping your mouth shut, some projects cannot be worked on in an open environment like that.

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but what about us lazy slobs?

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You’ll be given cushy jobs.

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I can tell you firsthand that many of the people on those buses would happily take public transit if it were a reasonable option.

The only reasonable public transportation option between San Francisco and Silicon Valley is Caltrain. Unfortunately, its San Francisco stations are not centrally located, and it can take an hour just to get to the train station on the local bus from many parts of the city (for which you would need to buy a separate ticket, because there is no regional fare coordination).

If you work somewhere which isn’t near a Caltrain station (Apple and Google aren’t), the bus situation is even worse down south, where the suburban sprawl does not lend itself well to public transit of any kind (which is part of the reason so many people choose to commute 50 miles in the first place).

I’ll keep advocating for improved regional transit (and for employers to stop building remote office parks far from any kind of livable environment), but until it’s a practical option, I’ll still choose a private bus over a private car (or living in the car-centric suburbs of Silicon Valley).

Caltrain is operating well over its designed capacity during commute hours, and is struggling to increase service to compensate due to lack of any dedicated funding from taxes (it’s been raising fares to try to compensate, to the point that fares are getting close to the cost of driving).

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