Bernie Sanders' spoken-word album

I stand corrected on that. I will now revise to say that both Nate Silver and Harry Enten of FiveThirtyEight have made obvious errors against Sanders as I’ve shown above with facts and evidence (that includes Silver’s own link to polls).

Sanders hasn’t stalled. Again, I ask you… why are we still debating this obvious falsehood? All we have to do is look at the polls he linked to and watch their progression afterwards. His prediction was blatantly wrong. Sanders is still surging at the same rate as he’s been for months and he’s still doing so as of literally yesterday on the 21st.

The credibility of FiveThirtyEight has stalled when it comes to their persistent errors that work against Sanders (and reality). I don’t really blame them. Like many other establishment pundits, they simply don’t understand our 2015 grassroots dynamic that surrounds Sanders and it’s causing obvious cognitive dissonance as Sanders’ persistent gains on Hillary is proving the establishment wrong over time.

The corporate media and punditry is now provably wrong about Sanders. They bloviated (some might say propagated) repeatedly and vociferously that by now Sanders would be “dead in the water” and he was clearly a “flash in the pan”. Now, after Sanders’ sustained climb, I guess they’ll just slither under a rock of denial and hope some of us won’t notice that their credibility is shot to shit.

Why are progressives still listening to these people that still claim doom and gloom for Sanders after being so very wrong about him thus far?

Should we also listen to GW Bush’s advice and predictions on Iraq today? Makes just as much sense.


By the way, I’m willing to take some bets on Sanders here:

I’m willing to bet a ban via the mods, etc. – Anyone who is game, let me know and let’s discuss the conditions.

This [disconnect with African American constituents] isn’t going away. And Sanders isn’t being served by his increasingly strident online supporters, mostly white and male (some call them “bro-cialists” or “bro-gressives”), trolling his critics online. The tired online battling led to the amusing Twitter hastag #BernieSoBlack. Its organizer told Vox’s Dara Lind: “It seems like any time black people bring this up on Twitter, there’s just all these people who, I don’t know if they’re just sitting around searching his name on Twitter or something, they just come and get in your mentions and start harassing you, saying the same things over and over to you.”

Read more at link: http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/bernie_sanders’_big_test_can_he_learn_from_his_netroots_nation_conflict_with_black_lives_matter_activists/

SALON: This [disconnect with African American constituents] isn’t going away.

Ok, why are you hitting reply to my post without responding to anything I mentioned within it?

Meanwhile, you’re linking to yet another article with flawed predictions.

That Salon article is a month old and the prediction was wrong. Since that article was published, Sanders’ campaign has connected with blacks and other people of color in very real, quantifiable ways. As time has goes on, the connection with his campaign and POC is getting increasingly more solid.

The true disconnect is between the media and reality.

SALON: And Sanders isn’t being served by his increasingly strident online supporters, mostly white and male (some call them “bro-cialists” or “bro-gressives”), driving trollies his critics online.

Gee, that’s strange. Maybe people that keep calling most of Sanders’ most strident online supporters who also critique some tactics of the BLM organization “white, male trollies” should actually look around social media first?

How about taking a look at this Facebook post with almost 7.5 MILLION views and many thousands of likes and look at who is at the very top of all the comments disparaging some of the BLM tactics while praising Bernie Sanders?

That’s strange. Shall we label all those people of color white, males trollies?

What about this small sampling of many thousands more from Twitter starting with the famous musician and activist Killer Mike?

https://twitter.com/OckyJ83/status/630225514641264640
https://twitter.com/Othniel4Prez/status/630240450130124800
https://twitter.com/SoftFirstTouch/status/630145815550361604

https://twitter.com/thisisnatols/status/630227842639396865
https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/630192031231549440
https://twitter.com/__savv/status/630222867217694720

https://twitter.com/4cHairChick/status/630256274676932612
https://twitter.com/YeaYouRite/status/630363932285399040
https://twitter.com/DEEPTHOUGHT1970/status/630250385366745088
https://twitter.com/KMKevinMartens/status/630283485752602625

And on and on…

I still very much support the Black Lives Matter movement overall, however, I’m also not going to pander and pretend some of our compatriots that tie themselves to the BLM organization haven’t made mistakes. And, those who treat the BLM movement like a child that can do no wrong should really practice some introspection on that node. I think that attitude is bordering on classic forms of racism itself.

Perhaps it’s time for some white progressives at Boing Boing along with some writers at Salon to stop pontificating from ivory towers while demonizing and mischaracterizing Sanders supporters — and instead actually start listening to ALL people of color instead of just those who are part of the most radical elements of the BLM organization?

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