Bert and Ernie are just friends, says Sesame Workshop

From before Peter Jackson started tossing dwarfs:

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I know that movie is going to be awful but I still want to see it.

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The pier did not turn red until the very end, where it began to slope down steeply toward the river. It had been coated with some kind of grippy stuff so his feet wouldn’t fly out from under him. He turned around and looked back up at the domed court building, searching for a window where he might make out the face of Judge Fang or one of his gofers. The family of Chinese was following him down the pier, carrying their long bundle, which was draped with garlands of flowers and, as Bud now realized, was probably the corpse of a family member. He had heard about these piers; they were called funeral piers.

Several dozen of the microscopic explosives known as cookie- cutters detonated in his bloodstream.

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The post you were responding had changed the discussion to “characters” in general, and you used the same word in your response. I hope you can see why people misunderstood.

I’m NOT clicking on that.

*lolz

That shit, either.

Misunderstandings do happen, and I should have been more careful about my phrasing, but I got falsely accused of homophobia, because someone “misunderstood.”

Not cool.

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I had crushes on other boys in Kindergarten. I didn’t have an identity, but I certainly had an orientation, and quickly learned to hide any behaviors that might indicate that.

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I always thought of Bert as the dominant one outside of the bedroom but then when the lights go off, boy does the dynamic change.

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Ernie was always stealing Bert’s nose…

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I always thought they were brothers.

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Back in 90s, I used to work for the Pension Credit Service, where we handled the benefit for people who hadn’t got enough pension to live on.

A tidy part of our caseload was blokes who had worked cash-in-hand in the construction trade, and so hadn’t paid enough National Insurance to qualify for more than a minimal pension.

They were often pairs of blokes, who had worked together for years and shared digs.

Now, the thing was, that they could get more benefit by claiming as a couple living together than as two singles, so the advisers used to ask these guys, “Does one of you do most of the shopping for the pair of you? Does one of you do most of the cooking for the pair of you?”, because, asking them the question as it was written on the paperwork could lead to embarrassment and anger; “Do you live together as husband and wife?”

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The CTW writer’s guide gives his age as 6 years old. He was specifically created so that the viewers would have someone to easily identify with.

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Sesame Workshop should have kept their mouths shut. Nothing good came out of it. They should have known better.

Sesame Workshop, when asked, should not have clarified that Bert & Ernie are puppets and best friends?

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The First Rule of Sesame Street is “You break kayfabe, Oscar breaks your fingers”.

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Buried in this statement is the assumption that being gay is all about sex. It’s not. You have no idea how fraught the simple question “how was your weekend?” is when you don’t know how the asker will respond to “Well, my partner and I…”

Depicting gay couples just doing everyday stuff is important. Some of the overwrought responses tell me we still have a ways to go.

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If JK Rowling gets to add to the canon by proclamation, rather than by writing copy, so can CTW.

There was a band called Violent Anal Death back in the 90’s who had a gay Bert-and-Ernie themed art on their t-shirts, I thought it was Ernie doggy-styling Bert, but discogs implies it was the two of them masturbating together.

Anyway, whether they were gay or not doesn’t really matter. I think they taught kids that even two mis-matched oddballs could be friends, kind of a Neil Simon’s “Odd Couple” for pre-schoolers. And I think if you were growing up gay you might infer that they were gay, and see two guys happy together. Probably a lot of kids assumed they were brothers.

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I thought Sesame Street was a HBO show now? Do they still get PBS funding too?

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As I understand it, Sesame Street’s production is funded by HBO, toy/merchandise licensing, PBS, and corporate sponsors. It gets shown on HBO first, but then later on PBS, where it’s paid for by government and corporate sponsorship. The government has tried to defund PBS repeatedly for the last two years. I’m sure that Sesame Workshop is ultra-sensitive to that.

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