I wouldn’t want him abusing his power against anyone regardless of who they are.
Again, does this mean that the use of force is never appropriate
Um, what? Again, with this?
http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html#straw
Straw Man (Fallacy Of Extension): Attacking an exaggerated or caricatured version of your opponent’s position.
I haven’t said nor implied that the use force in any and every situation is never appropriate. I haven’t said that in this thread, nor any thread, nor any time in my entire life in any setting, as a matter of fact.
You earlier resorted to a weak, pretentious misrepresentation of my own positions and now a classic straw man argument. It only makes your argument incredibly weakened each and every time you resort to these kind of inane tactics.
Sorry, but these kind of inane, desperate distractions don’t work on me. I would have thought that you would’ve learned that by now. Here’s a second request to please knock it off and speak for yourself unless your goal is to needle me.
http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html#needling
Needling: Simply attempting to make the other person angry, without trying to address the argument at hand. Sometimes this is a delaying tactic.
If you still don’t get it after reading @adorita’s post here then I suspect you never will.
I read it.
Great, now work on comprehension.
If you want some sort of community policing
Case and point. You obviously still aren’t comprehending @adorita’s post. You keep ignoring the root of the problem.
The obvious point (to most everyone else here) of @adorita’s post is that the officer should have discussed the situation with the woman instead of being obtuse and combative. Then he would have learned that there was a public hazard that was unaddressed with a construction company that failed to provide an alternate route for pedestrians. That way the officer would have helped to protect and serve the public instead of antagonizing and endangering the public.
it’s a two-way street
Exactly. Respect goes both ways and the officer could have properly done his job by properly adhering to that axiom as he approached this woman instead of making an aggressively blind assumption about her motives, etc.
He could have determined a public health hazard, but instead ended up not serving the public in his haste to be a dickhead.
if everyone is going to stand on their rights as a matter of principle
What’s wrong with doing that?
only cooperate with police to the extent they are legally required to
No one is making that extremist argument. Once again, you resort to a straw man argument and I really wish you’d stop that distracting drivel. I think people should cooperate with police if and when they think the police are using proper judgment. This cop wasn’t using proper judgement. The cop should have shown her respect and made himself abreast of the situation with the construction issue before getting aggressive with this woman.
You know, treat her as an equal human being or something.
And, once again, I can’t understand why you would use such cavalier, dismissive language to describe likely racial profiling and clear abuse of authority while at the same time using much more stern language to describe her actions.
It’s not dismissive language; it’s acknowledging the reality.
The reality you’re failing to acknowledge was your usage of dismissive language.
You aren’t “schooling” anyone within this thread on the realities of life. Please dismount your pedestal and try talking to the rest of us here as equals. We all know there’s profiling. You aren’t laying some heavy knowledge on the rest of us here in this regard.
You know, treat us as equal human beings or something.
for those who live in the real world it is a reality.
Remember that “two-way street” axiom you espoused about respect? You should really look into it yourself. Implying that others and myself don’t live in the “real world” and to pretentiously assume those who disagree with you aren’t properly aware of profiling in said “real world” isn’t showing basic respect.
So don’t be shocked when people lose respect for you and your straw man laden arguments in the process.
Did she feel good being morally right as she was wrestled to the ground and forced to comply with his demands she put her hands behind her back?
Er, what?
I had hoped that you could have taken @adorita’s sensical post to heart that gets to the root of the problem with this incident instead of insulting the victim and/or victim blaming, but once again I see that you lack that ability for whatever reason.
