Bugs with the new BBS system

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When new posts are added to the pinned topics, there’s no blue bubble as there is next to unpinned topics. Bug or feature?

I get blue bubbles for the pinned topics.

You’ll only get blue bubbles for new posts in the topic if you are tracking the topic. See your user preferences for the default behaviors there, or you can manually track the topic via the controls at the bottom of a topic.

I just fixed (and deployed) the issue where the “this post was closed” message in the stream kept on showing up as unread.

If you read a topic all the way to the end, when we automatically close the topic we no longer notify you, cause clearly you don’t care.

However, there are other conditions where a status in inserted into a stream like pinning a topic. Pinning adds a regular message to the topic informing all the tracking users that the topic was pinned. In general pinning is pretty rare, so its not something that should get in your way too much.

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Then are the blue new topic bubbles supposed to disappear if you come back to the page after declining to read the topic, or do they only disappear when you actually read the topic?

Either way, it feels like the new topic and new reply bubbles should be different colors, because they serve different purposes. And yes, there’s a shape difference, but as small as the bubbles are a color difference would help separate them out.

Yes, if you are tracking the topic, the only way to clear the blue new post indicators is to read the posts, or use the control at the bottom of the topic to stop tracking the topic (set it to regular or mute).

Ironically, we originally did have the new topic indicator as a different colored “new asterisk sparkle” in the alpha, but then got feedback that the new topic indicator was confusing because it did not share a color scheme with the new posts indicator… :cry: so we changed it to match.

I could go either way on this myself, sometimes I feel the new topic indicator is visually too strong when it shares a color scheme with the new posts indicator.

I actually meant the new topic asterixes, not the new reply numbers.

For instance, when I load the BBS in the morning I see that the Boingers have posted a handful of times overnight and the new topics that have been created each have a blue asterix. I’m not particularly interested in any of the topics so I decide not to read any of them. When I come back to look in the evening those topics still have a blue asterix, and so do the couple dozen topics that have been added since the morning.

My expectation is that once I have seen that a topic exists, it should not be marked as new on subsequent visits to the BBS. I can see how the “If you haven’t seen it, it’s new to you!” approach applies here, but it’s not at all how I expect that kind of notification to work.

You can change the definition of new for your account in your user preferences. One of the many options is “since I last visited”.

Aha, so it does! I’d still suggest that should be the default behavior, however.

That’s not a snowflake?

I thought that was a weird Discourse design decision, but I just checked Chrome now and middle clicking links there open a new tab as expected.

Even if you allow the pop-up it ends up opening in a new restored window rather than a new tab. Right clicking and selecting “Open in new tab” works, but I shouldn’t have to do that.

Firefox is, in fact, the only browser that behaves in this way – try in IE, Chrome, Opera, Safari… none of the others have this peculiar middle click behavior. We have never been able to figure out why.

I’m not having a problem with it in FF in other versions of Windows. 7 is the Jan Brady of the Windows family.

Looks like you’re encountering https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657145

Discourse calls window.open(href, “_blank”) on the mouseup event, which triggers what seems to be a race condition in Firefox. Doing the same on a click event does not trigger the bug that I can see.

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actual bug i came here to report:

when i leave the BBS page open in a tab, i see the number pop up in the tab when new content posts. which is great. so far so good. so i tab over and under TOPICS, when i click the blue alert for “there are X new topics. click here to see them,” they frequently aren’t. new topics, that is. i’m getting a lot of old topics, including stuff that I’ve already read, seemingly at random. also, I’m getting topics sent there because the 5 days is up and the comments have been closed.

it’s not the holocaust, but i wasn’t sure if you knew this was happening.

EDIT: wait, this thread immediately bumped into that new topic alert. is each comment posted logged there as a new topic? that is confusing as all hell.

There’s still a bug where auto-closed topics will show up in the “there are 3 new topics” and @sam should hopefully fix that in the next week. The text is also wrong because updated topics (with new replies) show up in that list too. We really really need to fix the copy there @sam.

I moved 8 posts to a new topic: Replying to first post vs. replying to the topic

just deployed a fix for that

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I can imagine very good reasons for not allowing 1 character changes to be made to comments but forcing me to edit the post twice to add a single space seems counter productive.