Can you see the racism now?

Depends on what you mean by “a lot.”

What about UCSC’s Banana Slugs?

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Not sure what you’re banging on about, but I don’t discount the fact that the Irish suffered.

As for current Irish Americans? Pfft. They’ve joined the white club. Any clinging to Irish-ness is just that – nostalgic clinging.

And yet, you just tried earlier to put the verbal smackdown on a Native American person for laughing at your being all incensed over a stupid cartoon? But even better, with another cartoon featuring an even stupider cartoon explicitly of one of said Native American’s own ancestor, where before we had just a stupid generic cartoon? Because, hassling the ancestors in order to point out stereotyping the ancestors. That’s just…

Dang, it, y’all. I just gotta love me some irony. And unselfconscious, self-generative irony is like, the bacon-wrapped, deep-fried wampum prize of all irony. Even Grandfather’s gotta be having a good rofl over this one…

milliefink, you ROCK girl! Best comedy of the week, by far.

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Look, a white dude doesn’t get the difference…

Extra points for not using Notre Dame. That’s the usual white privilege go-to canard.

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I wonder if they would if they were called “The Injuns” or something and had a buffoonish caricature as their logo too…

I’m Irish (Norwegian, Catholic) and don’t get offended by the Fighting Irish (Vikings, Padres)!

That’s because there is not an active system of colonialism and oppression marginalizing the Irish, “Vikings”, or Catholics in our country. Native peoples are still living under colonial rule–take a look at stats from any area of society, and you’ll see Native people at the bottom. I’m sorry if you feel “oppressed” as a catholic or a viking–but you still have a helluva lot of white privilege that kinda negates it. Sorry.*

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Doesn’t sound like you respect people in those positions too much.

I think you completely missed his point - namely that sanitising words doesn’t change underlying situations.

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I thought this song might be appropriate. It’s titled. If You Own The Washington Redskins, You„re A C***

I will continue to avoid commenting on issues of race, but I want some kind of award for being a white guy who shuts the fuck up regarding racism.

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“Race” is, what people construct from various clues, including physical traits like skin color and cultural clues, like language.

Or are you seriously claiming that words like “wetback“ are not racist?

This would be one of those opportunities to be all Canadian and smug if I wasn’t painfully aware of the Edmonton Eskimos. Ferpetesakes.

Really, there just is no good reason to maintain a racist caricature or a racist name in a sports team. Not one.

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Well at least they have the Canadian smarts to keep a caricature Eskimo out of their logo, eh?

Hey - good luck on your dad tracing back his heritage. We have it fairly well traced on my grandpas side, and so I and my family are on the tribal rolls for the Potawatomi Nation, Citizen Band. Tribal law is really interesting, it’s sort of like having a sovereign nation within a nation.

Fun fact - we are called the Citizen Band because we were one of the first groups to take American citizenship in an effort to not get further screwed over in land dealings.

No, I understood his point fullly, and I generally share it, but if you want to show that you respect someone’s job, it’s odd to describe so much of it as shit. Those kind of disparaging descriptions of those jobs is why people use overblown alternatives.

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The only good thing about all these stupid racist american sports team names is when they set up the Indian Premier League cricket squads MUMBAI INDIANS pwd that steez good.

While English Premier League football is a fine example of bland teams names, the irony is that outright, unabashed racism has always been commonplace, with fans spitting at black players, yelling racial slurs at them, calling them monkeys, throwing banana skins, etc.

And we had ‘The Black and White Minstrel Show’ on BBC1 until 1978. I’m just saying, if you want to see old school racism done with real care and attention to detail, Britain is up there with the best.

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Wow! Been about a century or so since I’ve heard mention of Kinky Friedman and the Jewboys. Good band.

In the American system teams can move or at least threaten to do so. If you move the Cleveland Baseball Club to a different city, then your brand goes up in smoke.

me too, i would totally pay for the NY Jews hat.