City of San Francisco tells man he can't live in wooden box in friend's living room

Pah! Luxury! We got evicted from our hole in the road. We dreamed of a box…

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You say that like it’s a bad thing.

Yes. It’s been built, being used, and being rented as a separate room, and as such it must meet all applicable city, county, and state fire/seismic/life safety codes. Mr. Berkowitz’s box meets none of those codes.

That’s neither the issue nor the reason.

Ni! Ni! Ni!

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Okay, so rewrite the lease (if there even is one) to indicate that this person is renting a “bed” in the apartment and then modify the enclosure to barely fall below the threshold of a “room”. It appears to me that the box only holds a bed and not much else.

My point is that it would be a simple matter to “route around the damege” as it were, to bring it into compliance, but only just.

Personally, much like I believe that a drug addict should be allowed to ply their vice as long as they are not harming anyone else, if someone wants to take a calculated risk that they burn to death in the unlikely event that they are trapped in their bed during a fire, that’s their own damn business as long as their bed is not the cause of the fire.

Then rent control applies and you can’t ever evict him and the city will tell you how much he has to pay for rent from then on. :slight_smile:

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And again, add additional egress and make the thing fireproof. Problem solved.

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Well that’s the leesors’ problem, not the leesee’s :slight_smile:

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Is anyone else getting a flashback of the show Profit from this?

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Of course it’s the leesors’ problem.

But then the leesee get married and starts behaving poorly, and now their the leesor of two evils.

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It could be worse, they could have an interest in invertebrates - at least it’s the lesser of the two weevils so far…

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Usually renting out a room of an apartment/condo/co-op is considered illegal in most places. Leases generally require some kind of separate living quarters with its own facilities. Illegal tenancies mean courts won’t touch it. Making it very difficult to evict the tenant. As for the box it could be deemed a fire hazard by the landlord, condo or co-op association. It would be far easier to build a box in a single family home.

Since the box is not in a single family home, it could easily be nixed by the management of the buiding.

Pod 6 sucks!

Ehh… it’s not really so much what is a “room” but what is “habitable space”

From the IBC:

HABITABLE SPACE. A space in a building for living, sleeping, eating or cooking. Bathrooms, toilet rooms, closets, halls, storage or utility spaces and similar areas are not considered habitable spaces.

I think that even with your tweaks it still qualifies a space within a building for sleeping.

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Just cover it with tinfoil, ground it and declare it a Faraday cage and that the occupant is electromagnetically sensitive. Then trying to nix it will be an ADA issue… :expressionless:

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Those two things are closely linked. The part of the city where I used to work was once Mission Bay until they filled it in with all the wreckage from the 1906 quake.

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You’re ignoring the fire/seismic/building/life safety code issues which must be met when a living space is divided or expanded to include additional rooms for rent.

Yeah, that’s the problem.

Clearly, you are not familiar with building codes and rental laws regarding habitable space. See above.

Fortunately, we don’t live in a libertarian dystopia of freedumb. You’re also forgetting fire–especially in a city as densely packed as San Francisco–does not remain within the confines of your floor or structure.

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Except that it’s a free-standing object, not built-in or attached to any structural wall.

There are enclosed beds for people with cognitive or sleep disorders that would in no way be considered a “habitable space”

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I guess this is right out then…

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