They did. 
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Indeed, we all do. A lack of response can mean a lot, just as a response can. But responses are never guaranteed, and it doesnāt do any good to keep pressing for one.
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Quite often pushing for something actually does accomplish something.
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No one has told me when I accused anyone of misogyny. No one has told me how asking for clarification is wrong. No one has told me how disagreeing with posters is out of bounds.
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I didnāt see it. I never saw them say that, I just saw a person get really offended people didnāt lap up this toxic [my opinion] rumor they seemed enamored with. Just like I didnāt see Mindy call them any names or anything, but if it is ātrueā that there is a misogynistic component to pushing the rumor then how is it bullying to say that to them? Surely just that canāt be the problem? Mindy must have said something worse right?
When I left the person who isnāt here arguing about this for themselves but has become a proxy for other peopleās problems with each other nonetheless was still doubling down and digging in. I didnāt think it was worth it anymore to deal with it by that point though.
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I try hard not to do that, but apparently disagreement is a bridge too far.
Again, I was told I called someone misogynistic (or implied it)ā¦ I asked to be shown that comment. Iād like to see where I used that word or implied it, so I can clarify what I meantā¦ 
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I donāt know that anyone but a mod could do that. But maybe itās worth it? I recall making a joke about the whole thing like āsilly kids women canāt say noā or something like this. Just because I dunnoā¦ do we believe Obama or not? It kind of is a choice to believe a womanās desire to decline something people imagine she must want. Like we have to either extend credibility to this social media rumor OR Michelle Obama.
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If the comment had not be deleted, then they certainly could point it out to me. I was told I called someone a misogynist, and I would like to know when I did thatā¦
As for the post about the former first ladyā¦ I donāt think I called anyone a misogynist there, eitherā¦
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I disagree with that assessment of that topic. What else can be said?
Fair enough. To clarify, what was said, iirc, was that by posting a rumor they heard it was equivalent to ānot listening to womenā. If conflating that with misogyny was off base I apologize, but I canāt say I see a huge gulf between the two.
Which was what prompted this thread (which was only really meant to be a comment).
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Just for the record, the only reason I stopped commenting on this post is the marginalized people who are mentioning their greivances and how theyāre continually being microagressed against and gaslit, even in this thread are stating my opinion and have been trying to get people to listen all along. I donāt think thereās anything else for me to say other than, again, believe people when they say you are hurting them.
And they shouldnāt need to have to repeat it over and over.
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I said that multiple times.
And I donāt think itās necessarily misogynistic, but I do think it is an unconscious bias and can see misogonystic from its front porch.
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All I know is that when thereās a lot of women on one side of a discussion and none on the other - Iām going to give more weight to their opinions when it comes to misogyny, women being bullied and/or silenced. And if theyāre being too damned uppity with their voices.
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No, NOT listening to what Michelle Obama said was actually not listening to a woman. Since sheās a woman who said a thing, ignoring her is NOT listening to women, or at least a particular woman.
But AGAIN, is that calling someone misogynist, or is it pointing out a fact that a woman who said she had no interest in being a politician against her will was being ignored?
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Youāre right, it is (or can?). But again, thatās not what they were saying and they tried to clarify numerous times. It also seems that thereās an assumption about this posterās personhood that Iām pretty sure is way off base.
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But are you really saying that all it takes is saying that not listening to Michele Obama say no is an example of not listening to women to be considered a bully? Like thatās too much???
I meanā¦ itās not even wrong.
I can 100% believe that some one might repeat something like that in good faith and then get personally offended when people donāt react well and still basically think nothing bad about that person.
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Michelle obama said she has no interest in politics. People ignored that part in their speculation. I pointed that out. I did not call anyone a misogynist.
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Iām having trouble parsing that sentence (itās late here). But again, to clarify, I completely agree that itās misogynistic to actively try to recruit Michele Obama when sheās said she doesnāt want it. But also, thatās not what the OP said ever, in even the lost spurious reading of their intent.
And also; thatās not the point! The issue Iām trying to highlight is the pile-on that happened that distorted their words beyond what they could ever hope to hash out. And itās a pattern that has developed here, certainly in response to bad-faith posters at times, but has also spilled over into what would otherwise be just a normal, boring conversation about 2024.
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I donāt have an answer for question one, but as for the other two: you are allowed to ask and say whatever you want within the rules. And other people are allowed to react to what you ask and say (or not) within the rules. And that setup is never going to leave everyone satisfied all the time.
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Ok, I love you all, but Iām bleary and barely able to think straight. Bed time. 
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I was told that I called someone a misogynist. Did I or did I not? Isnāt the point partiallly about putting words in peopleās mouths?
that was the thing I supposedly said and why I was in the wrong.
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